April 20 2024 OOC Meeting

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Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:09 pm

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Temi exclaims, "Thanks!"

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Temi has awarded you 2 QPs: Scribe

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Temi muses, "Alright, so, agenda as per usual: Announcements, Staff Updates, Player Heartbeat, and
Player Topics. Anyone have any topics they want to get on the list?"

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HIEROPHANT declaims, "I do!"

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Pontifex says, "I'm good."

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Temi declaims, "Okay! If anyone else thinks of any, let us know and we'll get you on the list"

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Valora states, "I have a minor one if we end up having time."

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Temi nods.

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Temi wonders, "Alright, anyone have announcements to share to start us off?"

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Temi questions, "Is the Magebane party still going on?"

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Paprika claims, "It is mostly winding down, but there will likely be people hanging out there for a
while."

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Sparkles claims, "The first shift seemed to potentially be heading off but, there will be folks
around still if anyone else wants to poke by."

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Sparkles nods.

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Temi states, "Alright, then there's a party to stop by after we're done here if you like."

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Temi wonders, "Anything else anyone wants to announce?"

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Temi trails off, "Okay. On to staff updates then. I'll go ahead..."

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Temi claims, "I was out last weekend, so not a lot accomplished then, and now oncall at work, so...
we'll see what time I have for handling other things."

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Temi claims, "Mostly just requests and typos and such."

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Temi muses, "Karrin?"

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Karrin claims, "Same. Requests, I have a pet to finish up this evening. But, pretty routine this
week."

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Temi states, "Nothing wrong with that still! Karrin's handled more of them than I have, even."

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Temi grins.

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Temi claims, "And Eurus has stepped away for the moment, so we can go onto players."

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Temi muses, "How's the RP been this week for everyone?"

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HIEROPHANT finishes abruptly, "I had some very nice scenes, wrote a book, reviewed a book, but
wasn't online as much as I'd like - gourmet portions of RP per say"

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Temi claims, "Quality over quantity, I'd always say"

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Valora states, "Been having a great time. Magebane was great so thank you to the hosts! Overall been
a good week full of some fun scenes though."

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Meiari muses, "I like books, anything we can find in the library?"

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Temi claims, "We haven't reviewed it yet, but I'm guessing this one won't be public"

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Sparkles says, "I've been happy to see some more flocking to locales of the day and such this week,
and we seem to have some new/returning folks."

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Capitalism states, "Needs more explosions "

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Pontifex states, "I'm doing alright! People already call me mean names OOC."

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say I have been enjoying the fact southside has been bustling this week

InvestSouthside says, "I have been enjoying the fact southside has been bustling this week"

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Valora exclaims, "Burn down the Merchants' Guildhall, got it!"

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Temi asks of Pontifex, "Is that a good thing then?"

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Temi grins.

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say its only the truth

InvestSouthside states, "Its only the truth"

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say and in love

InvestSouthside claims, "And in love"

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Pontifex exclaims, "Pfft. It's alright. I'm having a good time!"

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Temi pontificates, "That's the important thing!"

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Temi queries, "Anything been bothering folks this week that staff ought to know about?"

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Capitalism states, "Work sucks. need more rp time"

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Temi states, "I'm afraid we can't fix that one for you."

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Capitalism nods.

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Temi states, "Assuming you mean real work and not GL work"

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Temi grins.

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Capitalism nods.

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Temi wonders, "Figured. Anything else from anyone?"

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HIEROPHANT says, "I figured out why the moons are unpredictable. It has taken me several months, and
I am mildly disappointed."

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HIEROPHANT claims, "I wanted to make a calendar. :("

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Valora claims, "I am curious and concerned"

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Temi states, "They were always Az's special project"

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Karrin questions, "Mild disappointment is better than large disappointment?"

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Temi nods in agreement with Karrin.

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HIEROPHANT states, "Every time the server crashes for any reason, it desyncs a little bit from
realtime, so the farther out I plot the moon phases, the less reliable it comes. Alas."

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Temi states, "Yeah, unfortunately time is not tied to real markers but just as stuff progresses on"

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HIEROPHANT says, "It is, as far as I can tell, just counting server ticks. It would be neat if it
could use UNIX time as a reference, but that'd make too much sense.

this is a joke complaint, we can move on :)"

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Temi grins.

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Temi muses, "Alright. Well, not hearing anything else from folks, so onto player topics. You had
something else Hierophant?"

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HIEROPHANT pontificates, "I do!"

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HIEROPHANT claims, "I understand what you can do with a normal 10-QP Minor RPA (Roleplay Assistance)
plot, as I've used minor RPA for a variety of things that, mostly, I can't really talk about here -
but I've never run a Major RPA plot for 100QP. Has anyone here run one before, and can staff provide
some insight on what Major RPA can do that Minor RPA can't? The help RPA helpfile doesn't talk about
Major RPA in any real detail."

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Paprika doesn't understand minor rpa either.

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HIEROPHANT says, "I use it mostly for investigations and for interacting with NPCs."

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Nalani is idle.

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Temi claims, "There hasn't been a lot of them, and not really any sort of set things. More what
would be necessary for unique ideas that need staff help"

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Temi says, "I think one a long time ago was setting up mobs and such for a festival around the city"

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Sparkles claims, "Perhaps a helpfile of some kind might be helpful of a short list of what one can
request with Minor or Major RPA? I think sometimes not knowing what one could ask (for) can
intimidate some folks from getting more involved. As that seems something that comes up in regards
to plots as well."

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Temi states, "We could probably flesh out info on minor RPA some"

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Temi claims, "But I definitely don't want major RPA to start feeling like a menu of stuff to pick"

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Karrin claims, "Agreed. I think that'd limit the possibilities there."

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Paprika claims, "A single example even would be helpful, though."

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HIEROPHANT states, "Not a menu necessarily - that's what help qp is for - but I literally have no
idea how to use it."

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Valora claims, "I personally think a few examples of past Major RPAs would be nice to understand
what generally is the area where minor becomes major."

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Temi says, "I don't know that we'd want to repeat the same ones either"

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Karrin says, "I think that if you ask for a lot, a lot, that'd probably qualify. Or say something
that required coding new programs that is time consuming."

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HIEROPHANT finishes abruptly, "When I ask for things I try to make informed requests. I don't always
succeed, and in general I feel bad asking for things and being told 'that is not a thing we will
do', because it is always reasonable - and always a waste of staff's time that could be saved if I
had a better idea of what to base my RPA requests on"

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Temi claims, "That takes away from some of the uniqueness of it."

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HIEROPHANT says, "Okay. Well. That's fine. But if it's so unique it never happens then I'm not sure
why it's an option. I do mean I have genuinely zero examples. I'd be fine with just three."

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HIEROPHANT states, "If only to understand the scope or scale that major RPA can have, that minor
can't."

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Temi says, "I'll see if we can provide some more information, but, honestly, it is super intangible
from our side as well"

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HIEROPHANT queries, "Well, if there's no clear idea, then it might be less confusing to just take it
off the board? Can I ask when the last major RPA plot was completed, happened? "

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Sparkles says, "This feels like one of those moments where ... there's an understanding where
there's not a desire to restrict ideas or repeat ideas, but a lack of any even vague information
seems to just encourage people to not consider it and mostly wait for staff plots as the 'big idea'
stuffs, which I do wonder if that leads to frustration on both sides."

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Temi says, "We probably could remove it from the list, but I still think we'd want people to know
that there is a possibility for some bigger stuff when they do have unique ideas"

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HIEROPHANT says, "The thing for me is - if you ask for something -too- big, then it becomes
something that needs to be a staff-sponsored header instead, as those are much more open in what can
happen, but are also a massive staff burden; while Minor RPA is something you can handle in one
scene in 1-2 hours or less"

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Temi claims, "And I don't recall what the last specifically would have been"

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HIEROPHANT nods.

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Nalani is no longer idle.

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Temi claims, "I'll put it on the staff list to discuss, but honestly part of it is we don't have the
ideas for you."

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HIEROPHANT claims, "The idea that comes to mind is having the King host a ball or a gala at the
palace, but then that becomes Event RPA, so it's still very foggy."

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Meiari trails off, "I feel like it may help if the rpa examples were approached from the perspective
of 'guidelines not rules' .... like I would have never thought of city wide mobs for something, that
alone can help give a springboard for ideas"

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Sparkles states, "Even a list of things that wouldn't be allowed might provide what the ceiling is."

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HIEROPHANT claims, "I'm just wondering at this point if major RPA is just a relic of an older system
that now has more buttons to push that are more specific, like Event RPA, the ST system, and Guild
plots.

And, yeah, what Sparkles said."

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Karrin states, "I think we can figure out a way to give some sort of guidelines. I'm not sure a list
of 'nos' would be it."

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HIEROPHANT says, "There are many helpfiles, including ones related to RPA, that are mostly lists of
'no'"

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HIEROPHANT states, "A new one for Major would not be out of place, at least"

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HIEROPHANT states, "To add to meiari's point, players are necessarily unaware of what staff tools
can do and how long it takes to do things with them, so a list of things you -can- do helps us grasp
what's possible to ask for"

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Temi states, "We'll see what we can come up with, either some explanation or remove it from the
list"

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HIEROPHANT gives a thumbs-up.

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HIEROPHANT claims, "Thanks for putting it on the list, the discussion alone is great. That's all for
me, I'm satisfied with the topic"

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Sparkles nods.

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Temi queries, "Okay, Valora, you had something small then as well?"

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Valora says, "I know I have had a few times this last week where I or others in a scene have just
been dragged away cause they forgot they were on follow or the person they were following decides to
quickly move to another room to grab something... I was wondering if maybe we could add a
following/follow tag where we have Bathed or Action? Just a way to help avoid that issue? I know
it's a really minor problem and I've never had issues with it being more than 'an oops carry on' or
'sorry I forgot to tell them something what where we saying' but thought I'd bring it up."

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Pontifex is idle.

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Pontifex is no longer idle.

Pontifex says, "A"

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Temi queries, "A flag on the prompt you mean?"

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Capitalism nods.

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Pontifex has returned from AFK.

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Valora states, "Yeah"

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Capitalism claims, "I think so"

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Valora claims, "Just some visual reminder. I know it's minor but it was on the brain."

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Temi wonders, "It could make it more crowded, and you can't set different flags individually - just
include flags or not. What do people think in general? Would that help more or crowd more?"

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Capitalism says, "Help for me."

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Paprika says, "I'd like it"

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Meiari claims, "I'm personally for it as a forgetful dustbunny"

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Temi asks, "There's not any sort of stealth follow, I don't think, yeah?"

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Capitalism states, "It may be crowded sometimes. But most of the time they all just fall off on
their own so having follow would just be a reminder"

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say there is

InvestSouthside claims, "There is"

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Sparkles says, "But I think it's less if someone is following -you- but if you are following someone
else."

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Capitalism questions, "Is there a way for it to do a "Is Hidden?" type of display so if it is true
then doesnt show for them"

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Meiari states, "Yeah, what Sparkles said c:"

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Valora says, "What sparkle says. If a brotherhood assassin wants my ass then I don't want to ruin
his fun"

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Temi wonders, "What did you guys have in mind? Followed, or following, or both?"

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Meiari claims, "Following"

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Paprika states, "Following, I'd think"

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Valora says, "I think Following would solve most issues and be unlikely to cause new ones"

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Temi says, "Okay, we'll have to see how hard Eurus thinks it would be, but potentially not bad"

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Pontifex claims, "Following definitely."

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HIEROPHANT states, "An "is following" prompt flag is good. An "is followed" prompt flag is not."

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HIEROPHANT says, "If you don't want to be followed or want to clear your follows, group and ungroup
the target, or keep nofollow on yourself to start with"

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Temi nods at HIEROPHANT.

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HIEROPHANT finishes abruptly, "Following someone while hiding/sneaking is very slow, so that's less
of a concern, but revealing that they are present through a prompt flag - is not a good idea"

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Temi nods in agreement.

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Temi asks, "Alright. Anything else anyone wanted to discuss today?"

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Valora states, "Agreed I don't want to ruin any stealth play... just remind me I'm following someone
so they don't steal me from the queen's and half way down the road as I was emoting. lol"

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Temi grins at Valora.

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Sparkles claims, "I have a quick thing if there's time."

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HIEROPHANT queries, "If it happens to you very often, maybe make an alias for follow self in the
meantime?"

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Temi nods at Sparkles.

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Temi wonders, "Okay, Sparkles?"

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Valora states, "Yeah I mean like I said not a major issue. Never cause me a real problem so I'm not
too stressed atm"

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Temi nods at Valora.

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Temi claims, "Small quality of life thing."

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Sparkles claims, "There's been more fun things at the Auction House lately, however, at some point
in the past the number of items it will load at once was super reduced which can ... kind of mean
that some of the same items that aren't moving get stuck there for a while."

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Sparkles questions, "And I wonder if bumping up the number of items in the shop even a bit might
help with more rotation?"

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HIEROPHANT says, "Especially given the foreclosure efforts of late"

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Temi claims, "It moves 9 items out and 10 items in. So if nothing gets bought, it will increase by
1 each week"

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Temi says, "If stuff does get bought, it will up to 10 each week."

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Temi states, "We don't want it to be too reliable of an alternative to going to merchants. More
just fun surprises than a dependable source of specific types of things"

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Temi muses, "What do the merchants think?"

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Pontifex has gone AFK.

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Pontifex has returned from AFK.

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Temi states, "If the balance doesn't feel right to achieve that now, we can adjust"

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Meiari says, "I think that Elisabetta and other merchants likely would be available for the updating
of threads and restaining of furniture for a modest (or grandiose) sum of silver if people wished to
get their antique finds at the auction house restored....

That plug of retooling aside: I don't personally have an opinion besides I like seeing what things
pop up."

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Temi nods.

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Temi wonders, "Any others feeling like some more pressure off would be nice, or would still harder
to get commissions?"

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Karrin states, "I think suggesting they bring it by for a merchant refresh is nice."

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Nalani is idle.

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Temi claims, "Well, we can probably nudge it a little and see how it goes."

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Meiari claims, "Yeah I mean, it can cost a lot to have a player change strings that arent theirs, I
think an entire outfit cost me like 800 silver to retool, but having more options is never bad imo"

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Karrin states, "Outfits, in general, are very expensive to retool and often cheaper just to remake,
I think."

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Karrin says, "Simply because of the vast number of pieces involved in them."

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Meiari says, "Probably right, but I know some sentimental fools"

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Temi claims, "Though people who can make the item themselves should get a discount to retool
compared to the random folks."

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Temi claims, "Still adds up, of course."

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Meiari says, "Right, the price for them to retool was astronomical in comparison"

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Temi nods in agreement.

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Temi says, "Alright. Any last announcements from anyone? Or we can send you back to your spooks
and goblins."

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Meiari asks, "Spooks and goblins handing out books maybe?"

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Temi claims, "We can leave that to the spooks and goblins to decide."

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Temi grins.

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Valora states, "Only if you report any heretical books to your local knight or inquisitor."

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Temi declaims, "Okay! Will send folks back now. Enjoy!"

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