Geras wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:17 pm
Trouble is colluding with a mage makes you a bad Davite, but a good priest.
A Priest who does not report a mage to a higher up is, thematically, being both a good Davite and a good priest. They are maybe not being a good HUMAN, wherein lies a lot of the fun conflict potential of playing Priest. In Davism, the sacred silence of a priest regarding confession and the cleansing associated with it is seen as a truly divine thing, a necessity for a healthy Community. If the Community cannot trust that ALL confessions are held to a sacred seal, how can they trust that smaller secrets aren't also being shared around at the community's expense? A Priest who breaks confession for ANY REASON short of through the Cardinal's decree — and then, only in what could only be described as exceedingly rare circumstances, likely involving suspicion of foul-play from the Priest who is hiding misdeeds behind the excuse of Confessional Seal — is, in the Davite Faith, commiting a huge heresy that risks immediate excommunication.
A lot of the discussion troubling me here come down to two assumptions: (1) that all Priests become Inquisitors. This is markedly not true — FUN FACT, the FOUR most recent Grand Inquisitors NEVER WERE PRIESTS. Arlow was promoted from Acolyte, Athyndriel from Earl Marshal, Farra from Acolyte, and Sibylle from Acolyte straight to Inquisitor due to IC reasons. These would be the exceedingly rare cases, but generally an Orderite who really wants to play Inquisitor and shows the understanding of theme to do such will get moved into that position quickly, as Inquisitor is one of the most fundamentally necessary non-GL positions on the game given the theme. We have had many priests not go on to be Inquisition; I can't speak of why they no longer play, unfortunately, but I do not think it was because they lacked things to do.
(2) People assuming that a mage telling someone that they are a mage should not have IC recourse. Guys, you can pine opinions all you want to, but any mage who does not go to the Pyre is committing a heresy
. It's one of the few Davite things that is not AT ALL up for debate. Magic isn't just the potential to become a Demon, it actively generates The Taint, which Davism says is an anathema to the Lord of Springs. It is the antimatter to the Lord. The Lord's mercy and purity cannot exist where the taint is. The taint is a very real thing that spreads just by existing. A mage who does not seek cleansing immediately is willfully spreading the taint to their neighbors. A priest who fails to convince a mage to go to the Inquisition is failing the community by allowing that taint to spread — and, in that failure, might seek to draw taint to themselves, to 'sacrafice their soul' for the safety of others. An Inquisitor who fails to capture and pyre wayward mages is failing all those who are touched by the taint and become corrupted by it.
As a modern example, I would equate it to a modern-day Christian not asking forgiveness for their sins. They know it's the only way to get forgiven for it, and if they die their soul does not go to heaven, except in this case it's even more extreme as their soul is warped into a thing that feasts on their brethren for forever and ever. Except forgiveness is death, and people like to live; but just as no "proper / good" christian would be able to validate their lack of prayer/forgiveness, a "proper / good" davite who was a mage could not justify, in any reasonable capacity, their retisence to becoming pyred. They can feel guilty, yes, but every breath they take that they are not pyred they would have been taught is a breath taken in generating the Taint that literally banishes the goodness of the Lord of Springs and invites ruin into the world. It's a serious thing. A serious thing above each and all-together the other sins. No other sin, thematically, carries a death sentence.
I understand that Priests would thematically be instructed to, if they did take the confession from someone that they were a mage, would be to halt the confession and inform the person that they need to go talk to an Inquisitor. The 'Church Correct' thing to do would not be to offer their own guidance, as Priests do not receive training on how to deal with this sin. The Inquisitor's job is to both contain the person correctly so that the taint does not spread, and to convince the person to go willingly to the pyre so that their soul can be more completely purified and find the Fontis afterwards. Someone dragged unwillingly to the Pyre would not go to the Fontis and enjoy that splendor, but would at least be spared the damnation of being a mage, so still a positive outcome. Inquisitors don't keep Mages for long, because doing so risks them escaping or the taint seeping out to others around them.