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Log of Ooc/staff meeting 9/14/2013

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:36 pm
by Voxumo
Notable piece of info- The gift for attending the meeting was 100 silver this time.

And now for the actual log of the meeting

Kinaed says, "Okay, today's agenda, folks, is:

- Staff Updates
- Staff Topics
- Player Heartbeat
- Player Topics"

Kinaed says, "Alright, if the desire to add to the agenda changes, let me know. Staff Updates are first, I'll kick off."

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Lloyd wanders into the vicinity. [login]

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Seymor makes a note "Will edit out the lag part of log when it comes time."

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Arynon wanders into the vicinity. [login]

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Azarial scuffs her foot sheepishly.

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Kinaed says, "Last week I didn't do very much. I started to put together a specification for Places code, but it's not finished."

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Arynon grumbles about his connection.

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Seymor queries, "Places code?"

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Kinaed says, "What it will look like is both the ability to join with objects in a room to have private conversations, as well as to make an object on the fly."

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Azarial states to Arynon, "We crashed."

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Kinaed nods at Seymor.

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Arynon queries of someone, "Wasn't me?"

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Seymor claims, "Hmm.. that sounds interesting"

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A Comfortable Room
[Chilly]
A plethora of gaily coloured silk pillows with fringes and tassels
completely conceal the floor. A large pillow in the corner stands out, a
brooding black mass of velvet and fringeless. Screens of nature scenes
painted with the spare strokes of a brush that hint at and outline the
subjects, leaving much to the imagination. Behind the screens, silk
curtains and sheets painted with bright patterns hide the walls, pulled
back only around the windows that pierce the southern and western walls to
look out over a lush garden filled with an untamed riot of plants and
trees.

[ Exits: -down- ]
Arynon is here. [App: 5]
Lloyd is here. [App: 4]
Takta is here. [App: 4]
You hear a strange humming coming from him.
Gaberiel is here. [App: 3]
A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes is resting here. [App: 3]
Beronica is sitting in her rocking chair. [App: 3]
Kinaed is here. [App: 5]
Beth is here. [App: 3]
Gavin is here. [App: 3]
A tiny, flimsy woman has sunk down and nearly disappeared in a comfortable pillow. [App: 4]
Safir is here. [App: 5]
Rain is here. [App: 3]
Temi is here. [App: 5]
Azarial is here. [App: 5]

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Aios has been transferred in by Kinaed. [OOC]

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Kinaed gives Aios some coins.

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Argider wanders into the vicinity. [login]

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Azarial says, "Nope. we all were booted."

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Morgen wanders into the vicinity. [login]

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Arynon claims to Azarial, "Ah"

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Kinaed says, "Okay, so that didn't get done by today, which was my aim, but it's getting done."

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Kinaed says, "Next week, I intend to complete the places code spec so players can have a last look to vette it before passing it to Az for implementation."

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Kinaed queries, "That's it for me. Takta?"

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Kinaed wonders, "Takta isn't in the room. Temi? :)"

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Temi exclaims, "Okay!"

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Temi claims, "So, I've been working more on herbalism."

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Arynon wipes some drool away at the mention of herbalism.

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[OOC] Jiraiya: "Yay its back"

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A person wearing a silk-lined, khaki velvet cloak trimmed with soft grey fur has been transferred in by Kinaed. [OOC]

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Takta trails off, "I'm here..."

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Kinaed gives a person wearing a silk-lined, khaki velvet cloak trimmed with soft grey fur some coins.

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Temi states, "All of the concoctions, excepting the flower stuff, now has little herb blurbs, ie explanations of the lore and affects in the recipes."

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Kinaed is just blind, sorry!

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Takta grins.

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A person wearing a silk-lined, khaki velvet cloak trimmed with soft grey fur claims, "Mmm silver"

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Temi claims, "And I've also added necessary tools to all of those, and just today, success and failure messages."

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OOC channel is now OFF.

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Temi says, "Next step is the recipe procedure messages, and that'll take a bit longer, but it's coming along well."

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Kinaed asks of Temi, "What's left to do?"

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Kinaed nods.

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Seymor says, "Well i bet beronica is happy to hear this"

Temi says, "I've got basic objects made for all of the plants and concoctions, but they will need the new herbal details once Az adds those in."

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Beronica rocks her chair excitedly as she bounces in her seat.

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Temi states, "And that's been enough to keep me busy. Back to you, Kin."

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Seymor smirks to Beronica

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Kinaed smiles.

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Kinaed declares to Takta, "Sorry about that earlier. Blind. You're up!"

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Takta grins.

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Takta states, "No prob! Okay."

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Takta says, "So at some point over last week, I finished the basic sewer system. Now, I still need to finish adding secrets, interesting offshoot areas, etc."

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Takta says, "I am setting a tentative release date of the 28th, two weeks from now, which is also when I'll be holding the Sept. quest."

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Aios cheers for Takta.

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Kinaed trails off, "Wow, that's a lot to do, and grad school too..."

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Takta says, "Still very happy to take suggestions for room ideas, lore, mobs, etc. that folks would like to see in the sewers."

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A tiny, flimsy woman me holds her nose since Takta clearly just came back from the sewer building.

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Takta trails off to Kinaed, "Yeah..."

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Takta states to a tiny, flimsy woman, "Oh yeah, I'm perpetually dirty all the time. "

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Gaberiel starts writing a huge ideas list for Takta.

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Kinaed claims to Gaberiel, "We'd love to get that off you :)"

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Seymor looks at his nails "Still thinks there needs to be a cat worshipping room just for the hell of it."

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Takta claims, "I believe my next big project after the sewers is to convert woodworking to new crafting, so stay tuned."

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Gaberiel states, ":D "

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Takta exclaims, "I think that's it! (Submit ideas to me via the Request board - not Personal board, they disappear too quick!)"

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Kinaed smiles.

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Kinaed claims, "Azarial, you're up."

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Beronica has lost link.

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Azarial says, "First, thank you all very, veyr much. I am always surprised at the community we have developed here, and never in a bad way."

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Gaberiel questions to Takta, "Full descs and ideas, just ideas, or both?"

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Aios hugs Azarial.

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Beronica has reconnected.

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Kinaed stage whispers to Azarial, "I've got the donations stuff scheduled during the Staff Topics."

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Azarial states, "My time, i'll spend it how I like."

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Azarial grins.

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Takta states to Gaberiel, "Full descs are okay - I'll take it all."

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Takta grins at Azarial.

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Kinaed wonders, "Okay, well... in that case, can I merge it?"

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Gaberiel snickers at Takta.

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Azarial claims, "I have resolved a major sticking point for how temi wanted to do a more fluid poison approach, of which some fo the bugs and the crash today was part of."

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A tiny, flimsy woman me chuckles.

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Azarial says, "I will continue working on that tonight."

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Kinaed smiles at Azarial.

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Azarial claims, "Cnotes and gnotes have been updated, sharing some features. the account handler command for the staff has been updated with a few more tools; more will be added as any new account issues crop up."

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Azarial says, "Several funcitons and threads have been converted to third person, assorted other major and minor typos fixed in the code."

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Kinaed nods at Azarial.

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Azarial states, "Still trying to work on magic, but that takes more time and concentration I can apply at any given time; RL is keeping me stressed and busy."

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Azarial has awarded you 1 QP: crash

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Azarial claims, "If there is anythign else I hvae accomplished, I cannot bring it to mind."

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Kinaed smiles.

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Kinaed states, "Okay, guys. Staff Topics."

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Seymor says, "Yeah.. magic is complicated on a user level i could not imagine it on a coding level"

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Azarial nods at Seymor.

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Kinaed claims, "As you know, Azarial, his wife and his young son are without a place to live as of Monday."

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Azarial states, "Seymor especially as most of it i hvae to rewrite partially to completely for the newer system ideas."

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Kinaed claims, "We've raised a donation drive to assist him in applying for rental apartments and making his first deposit on a new place."

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Safir has lost link.

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Azarial is apartment hunting like a factory fur production behind schedule.

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Kinaed says, "Thanks to your help, we've raised $680."

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Takta cheeeers D

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Takta declaims, "Er. :D!"

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Kinaed states, "I'm going to send this money to Azarial today, and hopefully it will help him find a roof and facilitate his wife in keeping her job, which must be so much harder in these circumstances."

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Arynon exclaims, "Nice job!"

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Safir has reconnected.

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Kinaed says, "So thank you, everyone, from the bottom of our hearts. Those of you who donated, you know who you are. I've had a few people ask me to keep it on the Down Low, so I am."

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Lloyd claims, "I'm sorry about your situation, Azarial. Best to you."

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Kinaed states, "But we're so grateful."

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Azarial states, "It is. call center for the xbox konnect thingie and the online stuff."

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Azarial claims, "Thank you"

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Kinaed asks, "Anyone want to say anything else on this topic?"

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Azarial claims, "I am beggared of words."

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Kinaed hugs Azarial.

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Azarial bows deeply.

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Kinaed states to Azarial, "We all acknowledge your dedication and what you've done for us for the past several years in building this game, Az."

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Azarial states, "Coming up on nine years, I think"

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Temi claims, "Just that it's great to see everyone realising what a great person we've got in Az, and the community really coming together for him. You can't buy great programmers like this."

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Kinaed nods at Temi.

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Takta states, "Yeah, $680 is probably like, fair payment for a few days of your work. *grin*"

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves has been transferred in by Kinaed. [OOC]

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Kinaed gives a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves some coins.

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Kinaed muses, "Okay, next topic?"

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Azarial states, "I've never figured out how to realistically price the time I put in here compared to 'normal' programming jobs. it...seemed like it demeaned the work somehow."

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Kinaed claims to Azarial, "I couldn't afford to pay you programmer rates."

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Kinaed ponders.

Kinaed claims, "The next topic is a bit sensitive."

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Seymor arches his brow as he considers what this could mean

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Kinaed says, "I've had some talks with RPers who have come to TI from other RP games (specifically MUSH backgrounds) and found RP on TI not their cup of tea. I asked them a few questions around why they left, and it has to do with inconsistent RP etiquette."

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Kinaed states, "But I think it's inappropriate for me to throw up a help file on RP etiquette and expect people to follow it."

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves asks, "I come from MUSH environments, and I have no problem with RP Etiquette. Can you be more specific, Kinaed?"

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Kinaed says, "I thought maybe we should come up with an agreement about what we consider being polite during RP to one another, which I'd put in a help file."

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Seymor questions, "Was it so much a matter of rudeness as in word wise or the way rp happened?"

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Kinaed claims, "Specifically, things like setting the scene for people when they come into a room, walking out of a room without emoting (when not travelling) or acknowledging other people, turns, stuff like that. "

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Takta claims, "Hrm. Problem being we all come from such different traditions... what some folks consider necessary others just do not care about or even care for. For me, there aren't any hard and fast rules except for no passive-aggressive posing and just properly 'responding' to others."

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Kinaed claims, "I think it's more about our genre of games tends to have a game-by-game set of expectations."

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Kinaed says, "TI doesn't really have any established rules other than we don't turn unless asked to, but if we're asked to, we turn."

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A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes states, "My experience is that we usually kind of naturally follow that rule, anyways, for the most part"

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Takta says, "I think it should be fine to move on through a room without emoting if there's an OOC check/comment. 'Hey, just moving through, sorry'."

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Kinaed nods at a young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes.

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves states, "Yeah, I do not understand those remarks, Kinaed. I mean, I understand what you are saying, I just do not understand the logic or that statement as a motive to leave the game."

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Kinaed says, "It has been for at least one new player whom I spoke with."

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Temi claims, "Not that anyone is actually being rude."

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Temi claims, "Just that people don't know what to expect for ettiquette."

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Kinaed says, "I don't think anyone is trying to be rude, but I think their perception is that it was a rude experience."

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Kinaed nods at Temi.

Takta queries, "Did that person cite a specific piece of etiquette?"

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A tiny, flimsy woman muses, "Since this comes from some leaving the game over it, what more specifically was the RP-styles they had issues with?"

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Temi states, "So we're trying to write down what we do live by."

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Kinaed nods at Temi.

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Kinaed says, "For them, it was not having the scene set and "being acknowledged before they'd had a time to take in what was happening so they could form a pose""

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Seymor nods "I will be honest that given this is my first mud and never played a game like this before that i am kinda of oblivious to other types of rp on different game. And i agree with takta.. if your passing through say something oocly for people don't prepare a pose then have it wasted when you leave suddenly

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A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes trails off, "So, in all seriousness, they got pissed about being spoken to...to quickly"

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A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes says, "Rofl"

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Seymor asks, "Wait.. a scene set? really?"

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Kinaed claims, "Ie, if someone walks into a room, having other people react to their presence before they could figure out what was going on. I got the impression they're used to OOCly walking into a room, then slotting in."

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Takta says, "Gonna be blunt: I think this is that person's individual problem for expecting a MUD to follow MUSH rules."

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Kinaed states, "Remember, we're talking about different game cultures here."

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Seymor says, "Yeah i agree with takta here.. "

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Azarial states, "That sounds like it would mix ic and ooc too much for how we prefer to operate"

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Safir has lost link.

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Aios claims, "Yeah, I always thought you were supposed to scene set specifically so people DO know what's going on when they come in."

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Kinaed queries, "It might, but wouldn't it be good to have a help file about what we expect so we tell new people what to expect when they come on board?"

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Takta states, "I DO like scene-setting as an approach, but it almost requires turns."

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Delilah appears in swirl of fog, thunder sounding throughout the area lightning streaking through the clouds. [OOC]

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Kinaed says, "This isnt' about who is right or wrong, it's about retaining players who want to RP."

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Delilah is always sooo late.

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Safir has reconnected.

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Arynon claims, "Usually with those i've rp'd with, if someone walks into a room, EVERYONE sets actions to the current scene, I don't know how much more they want the scene set"

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A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes claims, "Can't tell you how many times i've had people immediately do actions so i knew what was going on"

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Aios nods at Kinaed.

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A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes nods at Arynon.

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Seymor nods in agreement with arynon

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Takta muses, "So we could have a rule that maybe you should set actions whenever somebody walks in, but that your codewise arrival = your IC arrival?"

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Kinaed muses, "Is that something we can write down though? If someone enters a room, update your action?"

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Kinaed nods at Takta.

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Takta asks, "So people can acknowledge you as soon as you enter, not only after you've posed?"

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Beronica states, "Moods help with scene setting as well. Plus I look to see if a person is continuing through and if I need to RP with them, I send a tell."

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Takta says, "(Truth be told MUSHes do that WAY better, but.)"

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Kinaed says, "And it doesn't have to be followed 100%, just something to give people an idea of how we prefer to RP here."

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Temi claims, "Update your action or give an explanatory emote with what's going on."

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Safir claims, "In high-traffic rooms that can be awfully repetative."

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Temi says, "If your action is already fine, I think it's fine to not do anything else."

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves claims, "Honestly, I would probably cut down RPing by a LOT if I had to update my action/mood every time someone enters a room."

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Kinaed nods at Temi.

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Takta claims, "I think we can say something like 'set your action if you're doing something particular someone ought to note'."

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves says, "Now, I come from a MUSH environment, and I understand what they want, and why they want it. But I have never experienced TI as a MUSH."

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Kinaed nods at Takta.

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Azarial muses, "Maybe have them ask oocly if they need a sceneset?"

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Kinaed nods at a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves.

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A tiny, flimsy woman states, "I tend to update my action almost after every emote sometimes. It seems to be quite individual."

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Arynon says, "Yeah sometimes there's ic reasons why we don't do anything with a person, there are times i've had to icly ignore people due to talking to someone on a situation (usually knights or court business) that held priority for my character icly"

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Safir states, "I set my action immediately going into a scene and update periodically, and try to do room poses when people come in, but if I have to auto-update the action EVERY time someone enters church square, I'll spend more time doing that than posing. "

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Kinaed claims, "I can say honestly that I think MUSH and MUD RP looks for different things."

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Kinaed claims, "And I'm not saying we should be a MUSH or change who we are."

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Takta nods at Kinaed.

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves says, "TI is a dynamic environment that changes, a MUSH is a static environment. A stage, with a deliberate and precise performance. When you walk in, you have to know which part of the performance you are viewing. TI I found far more freeform."

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Kinaed says, "But I think we SHOULD set the expectation for newbies about how we operate, otherwise we may come off poorly, even though our ways are just fine, because of what other people are used to."

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Temi claims, "I always try to acknowledge people when they arrive, but often time it's just in an emote that I'm already doing that I don't sem to notice them yet."

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Kinaed says, "I don't think we need to acknowledge people, honestly."

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Takta claims, "It's always bugged me that I tend to get acknowledged before I can pose, but that's TI."

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Azarial muses to a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves, "Are most mushes like that?"

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Rain claims, "It seems to me that we already have relatively well-established guidelines. I can get behind having them located all in one place."

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Takta states, "I mean, that's MUDs, rather than MUSHes."

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Kinaed claims, "If their arrival is IC, then their entrance is an event."

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A tiny, flimsy woman asks, "Maybe a "TI for MUSH:ers" , "TI for MUD:ers" etc?"

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Safir queries, "How are we supposed to know what every single new person is used to? I mean, I see a cyan, I immediately try to involve them in RP, to help them out. But we're not supposed to do that?"

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Aios says, "People have also been complaining about not being acknowledged, in recent times... so it's sort of different strokes."

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Kinaed claims, "We don't, but we can set out a help file to say how we do things and add to it to faciltiate the cultural merge of new players."

Rain says, "I'm with Takta on that point, I like to watch a little to know what I'm walking into, and to prepare anything that I think those already there should know about me."

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Azarial queries, "Maybe talk to them to see what their experience is, oocly, and then go from there on their first scene?"

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Rain states, "To cut down on the cheerful greetings when I'm bleeding profusely from a hole in my head or what have you."

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Kinaed nods at Azarial.

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Takta asks, "I think it's fine to just point folks to the helpfile if they're like 'wait, HOW do we do it here?'"

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Kinaed nods at Rain.

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Takta states to Rain, "Seriously."

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves claims, "You know, whois exists as a command."

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Gavin says, "That'll annoy the folks that don't want to be communicated with OOCly. ;) Still-- you can't please everyone."

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves states, "And I know for a fact there is a RP Prefs there."

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Delilah grins at Rain.

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Kinaed says, "I'd like to put in a Help RP Etiquette and put it in the new player zone."

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Takta asks, "Can we mention that it's WAY EASIER to involve you if you involve yourself?"

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Kinaed says, "It will specifically state something like 'This is how we do things here, there's no right or wrong way, but this is our way' or something"

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Kinaed nods at Takta.

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Takta claims, "I.e., don't go brood silently in a tavern corner and expect established players to do all the work."

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Gaberiel says to Kinaed, "Guidelines, not rules ;)"

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Safir has lost link.

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Azarial says, "Those reeve barfights might involve that type, but those are not that common."

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Kinaed nods at Gaberiel.

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Safir has reconnected.

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A tiny, flimsy woman states, "There are some texts on this in the forum already."

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Kinaed claims, "I'm cool to rename it RP Etiquette guidelines."

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Kinaed nods at a tiny, flimsy woman.

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves says, "I always have and always will involve players in a scene; But if I'm passing through, I don't expect anyone to emote for me, or say anything OOCly, is my point."

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Takta claims, "Walking on through, posing in turns, and passive-aggressive poses seem to be the major things I can think about."

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Kinaed claims to a tiny, flimsy woman, "Probably not very directed around how TI does stuff. We have a few things about twinking and turns, but not much else."

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Gaberiel says, "Maybe post a few logs of certain instantances that differ from Muds, like when people walk in. "

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Kinaed asks of Takta, "What is a passive-aggressive pose?"

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Temi muses, "Can also mention that thinks should go in think instead of emotes themselves?"

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Takta states, "'Takta looks askance at Kinaed for her stupid question.'"

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A tiny, flimsy woman claims, "I was wondering about that too."

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Kinaed says, "I'd put in stuff about using the think command instead of including thoughts in a pose."

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Takta states, "Or, etc."

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Takta states, "When the text of the pose clearly is mocking or insulting the other character."

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Takta declares to Kinaed, "Er, not that it was a stupid question!"

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Takta claims, "That was just the most obvious example in context."

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Kinaed claims, "Keep 'em coming, I'm taking notes."

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Takta says, "Present tense, not past tense."

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Seymor laughs at Takta's sudden correction "Quick takta back away slowly."

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Takta claims, "Past tense emotes weird me out, man."

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A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes claims, "Lol i agree with Takta"

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves says, "I just find this entire issue funny. The only hard and fast rule in MUSHes is not 'power posing'."

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A tiny, flimsy woman is being non-passive-aggressive by noting what a brilliant description Takta just did of passive-aggressive posing.

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Takta laaaaughs.

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Arynon was sitting over there.

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Gaberiel jumped on Takta and glomped her. Sagenod.

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Takta says to a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves, "Well, depends an awful lot on the game."

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Somewhere, a dog barked. [Rain]

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves claims, "I guess."

Azarial asks, "Power posing?"

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Takta claims to a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves, "The MUSHes I played had a lot more set-in-stone etiquette than TI."

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Azarial is completely clueless.

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Gaberiel claims, "I honestly avoid people who power pose >_> "

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Takta slaps Azarial so hard he's knocked to the ground! POWER POSED.

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Temi queries, "Are we noting already that travelling through without stopping isn't really considered rude?"

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A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes queries, "What is power posing?"

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Azarial states, "Ahh, closed emotes."

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves states, "Doing something without another player's permission, or acting for them"

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Rain nods at Azarial.

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Kinaed states, "Added no closed emoted."

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A tiny, flimsy woman questions, "Power pose sounds like godmodding?"

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Azarial says, "I rmember that form old TI."

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Takta claims, "Oh yeah, I forgot it's called closed emotes here."

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Lloyd is idle.

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Azarial found soe logs from back when cats were pets, and would camp a bar, 'doze', and let the cat roam while trying to figure out wtf.

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Gaberiel says, "I always add in something like 'kisses Kinaed, if she allows, or doesn't relatiate to the act.' "

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Arynon exclaims, "Hey we have a file on no closed emotes, i read it once! *really does read from time to time*"

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Kinaed claims, "I'm going to put in that we don't have a hard and fast turn taking rule, but we do loosely take turns, so give people a chance to respond, esp in high tense situations"

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves says to Gaberiel, "We need to RP more."

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves is kidding.

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Takta says to Kinaed, "That makes sense to me."

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Temi nods at Kinaed.

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Kinaed nods at Arynon.

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Gaberiel growls and claws at a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves. "Me-ow!" D

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Lloyd is no longer idle.
Lloyd has returned from AFK.

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Kinaed claims, "I think we need to take a lot of these disparate etiquette stuff already in help files and consolidate it, then throw it in newbie."

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves snickers.

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Kinaed asks, "Anything else people want to add about how we do stuff?"

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Takta states, "Bullet lists/short descriptions with links to longer helpfiles is always really handy."

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Rain nods in agreement with Takta.

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Kinaed nods at Takta.

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves states, "I was PR staff on a few MUSHes, I know most of the etiquette and stuff that happens there. So if you need help, I'd be glad to lend a hand."

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Kinaed states, "We'll do that."

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Arynon queries to Kinaed, "Can we add a 'How awesome is TI?" section? :D"

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Azarial claims, "Oh, right. guildleaders can sponsor at a cost of 5ip."

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Azarial forgot that.

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Kinaed states to a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves, "I'd love a list of what you'd put in an etiquette help file there, then I'll talk about each point with TI people, decide if we do that or if we think we ought to do that, then come up with something."

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves muses, "... wait, we can do that?"
Aios muses to Azarial, "What's the process on that? Coded or ask an imm?"

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Azarial says, "Coded."

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Takta states to a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves, "It's new."

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Gaberiel exclaims, "Vodka + Seirra Mist Cran = warm face and a giggling Gaybeeee!"

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves says, "I thin-- oh."

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Kinaed claims, "I'll put the help file up on the forums before installing it here, because I think something like this needs buy in from people. It's OUR culture we're establishing."

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves claims, "Cause I may have abused a bug otherwise."

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Temi claims, "That was an additional code update from Az this week."

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves starts writing a note. (This is an OOC action)

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Takta nods at Kinaed.

Re: Log of Ooc/staff meeting 9/14/2013

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:37 pm
by Voxumo
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Takta says, "Oh! And we replaced lawless rooms with lawful rooms."

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Kinaed wonders, "How awesome is TI section...?"

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves aborts writing his note.

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Kinaed claims, "Oh yeah, forgot that."

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Takta states, "Meaning fewer rooms will report to the Reeves when you commit crimes."

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Azarial says, "As long as it is reported and not repeatedly abused, no penalties."

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Azarial nods at Takta.

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Takta says, "Right now, only very public rooms like taverns, Church Square, shops, etc."

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Kinaed states, "Right now, only places we think it's really appropriate to report crimes will do so."

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Azarial claims, "Forgot that too."

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Kinaed says, "Ie, if it'd be dumb if that place didn't report a crime. Ahalin Tower :P"

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Arynon wonders to Takta, "Did phomes get changed to lawless?"

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Azarial states, "I'd cc myself on these, but i'd never find my wokring mail if I did"

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Takta says, "Phomes are lawless by default now, yeah."

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Seymor claims, "About time takta.. don't know how many times kain had to run and check something out because of the damned good citizen"

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Kinaed says, "But other wise, the game is currently lawless. This is in preparation for allowing Reeves guilds to put down IP to "patrol" an area."

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Takta asks of Kinaed, "We can lawful phomes at request?"

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Kinaed states, "Probably knights too, but they won't be looking for lockpicking, and rather looking for magery reports, etc."

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Gaberiel says, "YESSSSSSSSs"

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves finishes his note.

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Seymor cringes at the thought of magery reports

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Kinaed claims, "I think yes, but if we do, we should charge for it because it implies the home is extra secure because people are paid to watch it, etc."

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Arynon asks of Takta, "So for homes that were already built and in game we need to req it for lawful? and will this cost extra in home creation if we go that route?"

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Takta states to Arynon, "Looks like it will."

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Kinaed states to Seymor, "As I said, it won't be a blanket-wide game thing, but rather a guild member putting down a 'this place is being patrolled for that kind of activity' sort of thing. It'll probably also declare that it's patrolled somewhere."

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Beronica states, "Which is understandable since you will be paying for someone's time to watch your house.""

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Arynon states to Takta, "That makes sense, honestly, just clearing it up :D"

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Aios questions, "Does that include rooms outside phomes? Like if someone (hypothetically) breaks in, is the street room where they did the lockpicking lawless? Or just inside?"

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Gaberiel rips of his clothes, revealing a white dress shirt and black tie, no pants and sparkly red high heels, and then does the I Hate My Job Dance.

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Safir has lost link.

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves claims to Kinaed, "Oh, and yeah, I'll write up the list after the meeting if that's ok."

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Azarial wonders, "If it is large enough to have servants, would that make it automatically lawless?"

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Takta claims, "Right NOW, non-major streets are lawless. I think if you bought a lawful phome the street outside your house would have to count. "

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Kinaed claims, "Just so you know, the staff just asked if mobs can have a check to report crimes, like magery or thievery if they see it."

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Takta states, "Otherwise they could pick your front door."

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Kinaed nods at Takta.

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Temi starts writing a note. (This is an OOC action)

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Kinaed says, "I think it'd be appropriate to set a room lawful if a house that has paid to be lawful is directly attached."

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Seymor seems to consider something "I wonder if this affects guard mobs that are set to a certain room

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Kinaed says, "I think if we do soemthing like that, though, I'd probably raise the tax rate on the home rather than have a direct increased up front cost that'd forever make the place lawful."

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves queries, "May I offer an alternative?"

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Kinaed claims to a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves, "Absolutely, that's why we have these chats :)"

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Kinaed says, "Get people's ideas out! Makes a better game."

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Gaberiel examines Delilah closely momentarily.

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves states, "I think, personally, what a lawless character is more concerned about considering lawful/lawless streets."

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Gaberiel coughs.

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves states, "Is response time."

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Kinaed muses, "Could be. Right now the alert to Reeves is 5-30 min, I think? Is it randomized, Az?"

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Seymor smacks Gaberiel across the back "How rude."

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Azarial says, "Mmm."

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves claims, "You find yourself in a scene, at a veritably far away place, you are taking your time, when BAM, four players barge in, and put cuffs on you."

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Gaberiel states, "It takes -forever- for the alert to get to us"

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Kinaed states, "I think it's randomized."

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves says, "My alternative is rather not defining a room as lawful or lawless, but more like paying IP to decrease response time."

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Arynon questions to Gaberiel, "Not all of the time, remember the inn incident?"

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Azarial states, "Yes. five to thirty minutes in seconds"

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Kinaed claims, "Sometimes, they find out damn quick, sometimes, they'll have little chance of catching a lone perpetrator."

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Temi finishes her note.

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Gaberiel states to Arynon, "I think that was something else. But it could have been, idk"

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Takta claims, "Paying IP to change the time makes a little less sense to me."

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Takta says, "In terms of an IC explanation."

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves queries, "A guardhouse nearby? Dedicated patrols?"

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Arynon states to Gaberiel, "Nope, found out after they got the reeve notice at the inn"

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Kinaed states, "From the criminal's perspective? I'm not sure how we could do that codewise."

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Kinaed claims, "Non-lawful places won't report at all though."

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Azarial states, "It'd be throwing your weight around. let me know this shit went down, see? else you'll be in the river. or, if you tell anyone, your family will be sold to the tubori as pelasure slaves."

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves states, "I mean, more like, for players."

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Kinaed states, "So right now, it's only futzing around in places that really, anyone ought to know is unwise that'd be a problem."

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Gaberiel claims, "Ah. Well, I have never gotten one quickly, but I will look out for it lol"

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Beronica claims to a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves, "That sounds more like an RPA than an IP thing."

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves says, "Or at least some IC etiquette how many poses someone gets before Reeves/Knights are allowed to emote into the scene-- ah, you probably have a point."

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Arynon thinks KnightsOrder should get a 'magic used publically' notification.

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves states, "I just-- well if -I- were in such a situation"

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Safir has reconnected.

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Kinaed nods at Arynon.

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves states, "I'd be dead scared-- even knowing it's illegal-- that someone says 'give me just a moment' or is posing deliberately slowly, so that the Reeves can enter the scene, before two poses were done."

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Kinaed nods at a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves.

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Kinaed claims, "I don't think anyone would do that, but we probably wouldn't determine that. We have code to arbitrate how long it takes for a Reeve to get wind of a crime."

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Temi says, "With this reduced lawful description, I think we can definitely include magic more easily than when it automatically included people's houses and sidestreets and such."

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Kinaed states, "Sometimes they'll hear it fast and you're in trouble, sometimes they won't hear it for awhile."

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Kinaed nods at Temi.

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Delilah waves.

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Delilah has left the game.

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A tiny, flimsy woman says, "Without much experience with these systems, it does sound somewhat dangerous to have a time-dependent system at the same time as people are recommended to make good long poses and play out scenes. Hard to picture how to implement it differently though."

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Kinaed says, "Also, so you know - when you're going to be reported, you get a message that you were caught."

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Arynon says to a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves, "It happens sometimes, but there are also ways around the system, when I was Sapi I was putting a plan together (icly with others) to set off the reeve notification in several locations, so they couldn't pinpoint what we were actually after"

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves claims, "It's realtime, is my point, yes"

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Takta states, "The 5-minute end of things may be too low."

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Seymor says, "I think it should also be affected by distance.. I mean if your in the middle of the wilderness type thing and it just happens to be lawful.. well it would be surprising for a person to report so quickly"

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Takta queries, "What about making it 15-30?"

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Kinaed says, "Thing is, according to our crime board - most crimes are not happening in RP."

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Azarial states, "It should bell towards the middle."

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Takta states to Seymor, "Distance would probably be a PAIN to code in."

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Kinaed claims, "And longer than 5 minutes, and there's a low chance of catching the culprit."

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Takta states, "But the whole wilderness is lawless."

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Azarial says, "There is no distance calculation taht does not involve walking the gird, which means pathfinding."

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Kinaed states, "Most of the game, even in the city, is lawless."

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves claims, "I know, there are ways around it. I am just saying, there is that possibility that someone will inform someone else OOCly through some means, or even ICly, and that someone will jump through, so to speak, 'time', and get there before realistically possible."

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Seymor nods to Takta "Yeah i would imagine it would be and is why it is merely a dream

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Beth has lost link.

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Arynon claims, "What about the more people involved the lower the time, i.e.- 1 person wouldn't be reported as quickly as say 10 people huddled around a door"

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Azarial states, "If I snapped it to a grid (protect me for takta) that might work. maybe. rooms sizes vary, and not every room beside a room is meant to be right next door."

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Kinaed states, "You'd know if the alert was OOC or at least PC based, because if you trigger the Reeve/Knight reports, you get a message saying you know you were caught."

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Kinaed nods at Arynon.

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Aios claims, "Or mobs in a room when you do a crime shorten the time to report? I think mobs were already mentioned, but."

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A liveried courtier approaches Gavin and whispers something of apparent import into his ear. After murmuring apologies, the pair leaves the scene.

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Arynon nods in agreement with aios, " Yeah, npc's are constantly overlooked.

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Azarial claims, "From, rather."

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Kinaed says, "I'd go opposite though - one person is going to be reported more quickly (b/c they're not in RP and are much more mobile) 10 people or something."

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Gaberiel claims, "Yeah, shopmobs should decrease the time, but not all of them are chickens and are just going to cry in a corner when the back room is broken into. "

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Azarial claims, "Ahh, nice. gain uses the voidout."

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A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes asks, "I could see time of day maybe playing a roll? i mean, there's going to be more traffic at day than at night"

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A tiny, flimsy woman claims, "Azarial, what kind of algorithm is used now for speed-waling/pathing? I would have thought there had to be at least -some- more room-relative info in the database rather than just nodes."

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Aios states, "I always figure if there's a mob, don't do a crime unless you would do it when a PC is there. Shop mobs included, which kinda sucks because they should be off work SOMEtime >.>"

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Seymor questions, "Why kinaed.. A group of people standing around a door is far more suspicous than a single person.. unless that person is doing more suspiscous things like wearing a mask and is cloaked?"

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Takta claims to Aios, "It's kind of a catch-22. We could make 'em go away at night. But then you couldn't go to shops at night."

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Azarial claims, "It finds the room that best matches the string given. it then starts in your room, randomly picks an exit, and tries to find the room that matches, out to 12 rooms. it does this fifteen times, storing the best route."

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Kinaed says, "Because it's for RP purposes to give people a chance to emote rather than for realistic purposes."

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Returning to the scene with a liveried courtier at his side, Gavin murmurs, "Excuse me for that." He bows his head, then dismisses his adjutant.

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Temi says, "Which means we probably don't want to do anything based on group size, because RP purposes and IC sense contradict on what we'd do."

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves coughs.

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Aios claims to Seymor, "How do you know they're standing around a door though? The code would have to determine what people are actually doing in that scene, they might be 10 people across the street and one person at the door."

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A tiny, flimsy woman claims, "Azarial Ah, ok that is interesting. Thankyou for the explanation. "

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Azarial states, "It's a variation on the depth first search, i believe"

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Kinaed states, "I'd do it if we had a vested interest, but I'm pretty okay with 5-30 min countdown in a lawful area which is thematically known as a bad place to do crime without someone reporting it."

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[Action: a person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves stands in front of Kinaed's door, while everyone is busy.]

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Arynon states to Aios, "Ten cloaked people on a summer night would raise alot of suspicion."

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Aios claims to Arynon, "Cloaked, sure. Standing around, not so much."

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A tiny, flimsy woman says, "Azarial, Yes, so it sounds. I guess it's the best one can do without a B-tree or similar to actually know which rooms are next to one another."

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Azarial nods.

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Arynon claims to Aios, "That is a good point, whether they are cloaked or not"

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Azarial states, "Rooms next to each other is stored in the exit data, linked to each room."

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Azarial states, "And rooms can have one way exits into other rooms."

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Takta claims, "Probably honestly the system we have now IS okay considering it's only triggered for such obvious places, yeah."

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Kinaed states, "Guys, I hate to say it, but it's 10am and we haven't even gotten to player stuff."

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A tiny, flimsy woman queries, "It's an open node system, yes? In principle an exit can lead anywhere?"

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Azarial claims, "Yup."

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Kinaed questions, "So what I reckon we ought to do is come back and discuss some of this next week and move to player stuff. Yayinne/Az, mind taking that discussion to tells?"

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Azarial states, "As an example, leave down at the end of the meeting."

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Seymor claims, "Yeah i agree with kinaed. i am working on a tight schedule today"

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Kinaed claims, "I hear beauty happening, but only 1 in 20 of us knows what a b-tree is."

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Arynon questions, "Birch?"

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Temi grins.

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Kinaed states, "Alright, folks, let's skip player heartbeat b/c of time, and jump to player topics."

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Gavin states, "Data structures."

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Kinaed asks, "What's on people's mind?"

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A tiny, flimsy woman sinks back into her pillows waving. "Sorry, sorry, don't mind me!"

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Kinaed claims, "Nevermind, on a MUD, probably more like 5 in 20, but still."

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Kinaed asks, "Anything you guys want to discuss this week?"

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Seymor claims, "Well i have one thing that was brought up earlier today infact. I feel that the new changes to medicine have made it kind of mute to really increase your rank in the skill past a certain point"

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Arynon muses to Kinaed, "So this is only really in reference to my own rp, but why don't spouses retain their social class and title if their spouse dies?"

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Lloyd is idle.

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Lloyd has returned from AFK.

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Takta claims to Seymor, "Oh, believe me, more ranks still equals better chance of healing on first tries."

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Takta says, "Especially for genuinely awful wounds."

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Temi claims, "I do have some tie-ins to medicine skill on higher ranks for poison stuff too."

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Kinaed claims to Arynon, "Because they don't have it in the first place. It's just honorary. Titles have to be passed by blood."

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Arynon asks of Kinaed, "But if there was a child, would the spouse retain the honorary position till the child was of age?"

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Takta says to Seymor, "I tried to treat some bad wounds with about 25 skill and it was taking me 2-3 tries for each square to succeed. "

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Kinaed states to Arynon, "That's actually how it worked historically in classical feudalism models, albeit there's probably places where it did work that marriage gave the spouse rights to property, etc."

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Seymor states, "I treated a massive bash wound today and i am only rank 38. 9 spots i got every spot on the first try except for one."

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Takta says to Seymor, "There's definitely some levels of randomness involved too."

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Kinaed says to Arynon, "They'd become the mother/father of instead of the wife/husband of, yes."

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Temi states to Arynon, "The honorary position would probably last as long as there's reason to honor them/they don't offend someone, etc."

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Kinaed claims to Arynon, "But they'd never have the title themselves. Just honorary."

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Kinaed nods at Temi.

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Takta states to Seymor, "I suspect you got lucky. *grin*"

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Seymor says, "True it just well it kind of makes me go oh.. Why bother. But if there is poison involved at higher ranks that would make a bit more sense"

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Azarial says, "Well, one of the changes is that you do;t have to hunt for the injured spots anymore."

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Arynon nods, " Okay, that makes sense then."

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Kinaed claims, "With the open treat system, we may want to increase the difficulty of fixing a particular spot."

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Beronica queries, "So the fact that I am still gentry is because people still acknowledge that I'm gentry?"

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Takta claims to Beronica, "Well, you're a GL."

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Takta states to Beronica, "You have a pretty solid right to gentry as a GL."

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Kinaed nods at Takta.

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Arynon claims to Takta, "Now she is, she was treated as gentry during the time of Kain's death till she got GL"

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Takta states, "But the honorary titles and stuff, that's much more about nobility than gentry. Gentry's... a fluid construction we'll do better."

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Takta says, "Eventually."

Seymor claims, "Yeah beronica you can thanks kain for the initial boost to gentry"

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Joudan has been transferred in by Kinaed. [OOC]

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Kinaed gives Joudan some coins.

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Joudan says, "Hi :D"

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Safir states, "She's got the kiddo, too."

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Joudan wonders, "100 silver?"

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Joudan begins to count their money.

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Kinaed nods at Joudan.

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Safir begins to count their money.

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Seymor smirks a bit and expects to be hit by Beronica

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Joudan drops a large amount of silver coins into a fine vermilion silk sash embroidered with the Urath crest.

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Kinaed says, "No memorabilia today."

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Joudan questions, "No actual toy this time?"

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Safir drops a large amount of silver coins into a braided leather belt interwoven with dangling bone charms.

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Takta says, "The kid wouldn't really matter for gentry. It's really supposed to be based on social power/wealth but we're kinda flex on it."

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Joudan questions, "What'd I miss?"

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Seymor says, "Alot"

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Kinaed says to Joudan, "It'll be posted on the forums :)"

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Rain waits for someone to drop a large amount of silver into her hands. <3

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Joudan gives a thumbs-up

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Seymor says, "There will be a.. yeah kinaed beat me to the punch"

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Arynon is still confused about the whole noble marriage thing.

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Kinaed questions to Rain, "I didn't give you your silver?"

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Rain pontificates, "No, you did!"

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Beronica claims to Seymor, "Why? it is the reason she was boosted there, but I feel that i ended up living up to being a gentrywoman."

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Takta claims to Arynon, "Basically right now you're supposed to marry an NPC. Sorry. *grins*"

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Kinaed wonders to Arynon, "Can I get Temi to help you out in private?"

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Temi claims to Arynon, "If they keep it confusing enough, that helps to keep control on it."

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Kinaed states, "On htat."

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Kinaed states, "It's okay for a noble to marry anyone they want to, provided we have noble slots open."

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Safir has lost link.

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Takta states, "Well. It's OOCLY okay."

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Safir has reconnected.

Seymor states, "That you did beronica.. miss fancy pants"

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Kinaed says, "Obviously, ICly, marrying below gentry is a big social gaffe."

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Takta claims, "What is ICly okay is very much variable based on the say of Court GLs."

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Joudan questions, "Does one need to be in the court to be a noble?"

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Beronica claims to Arynon, "I am not marrying you."

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Safir trails off, "But people can up and become gentry through social rising. It's not the same with nobles. So retaining gentry after a spouse goes... "

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Safir says, "Not a big deal."

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Kinaed says, "Marrying gentry is understandable, but still something looked down upon, but it's probably the best option - but you'll need a slot open for your spouse to get married unless they are a noble."

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Takta states to Joudan, "No, but it's very common that nobility are at court. "

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves says, "I'll never get married."

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Kinaed claims, "This is to control what % of the population has noble privilege."

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Joudan states, "After Joudan dies, I'm totally going noble for the very firstest time."

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Temi says to Arynon, "After I eat, anyways. Would be glad to discuss."

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Kinaed states, "To get approved on a marriage, see the GLs of Court."

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Arynon states to Kinaed, "That's what's confusing, I can't marry anyone except my social class, but there are none in my social class,"

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Gaberiel states, "JOUDIEEEEEEE"

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Safir declaims, "Bachelor!"

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Seymor claims, "Marriage is overratted"

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Aios says, "Dirty rats."

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Safir claims, "Yep."

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves says, "I am curious what social class is that."

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Rain grins.

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Arynon grins to Seymor, " Not for arynon " P

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Gavin claims to Arynon, "There are NPCs, though. Or there's waiting for slots to open."

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A person wearing a mask depicting a sunrise with a voluminous black silk monastic cowl with wide sleeves claims, "Buit I think Safir gave the best answer"

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Rain says, "Could I get a trans out ahead of the wave? Thank you for holding the OOC Meet."

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Temi claims, "Okay. I'm going to go get some food. The hubby is getting impatient."

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Temi waves.

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Takta declares, "Thanks for coming!"

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Temi sticks her fingers in her mouth and lets out a loud whistle which causes a rainbow to beam in at her summon. She proceeds to skip away up the rainbow, which sparkles away behind her. [OOC]

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Azarial waves.

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Safir claims, "I always give the best answers."

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Kinaed asks, "Anything else to talk about before we wrap up?"

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Joudan queries, "When's new smithing going in?"

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Gaberiel states, "Getting preggerz"

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Rain has been transferred out by Takta. [OOC]

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Joudan questions, "Any ETA?"

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Gaberiel says, "Her con or his con, I need clarity."

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Takta states to Joudan, "Mady's still working. We can't really give ETAs."

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Joudan nods to Takta.

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Kinaed says, "I don't know. I know Madryiel is working pretty solidly on it."

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Takta states to Gaberiel, "Both"

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Azarial claims, "Mady has been wporking on it, but it is a large number of strings across the board, new objects, and the like."

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Joudan says, "I'm just excited as hell."

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Kinaed says, "I'll let her know someone asked."

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Kinaed nods at Azarial.

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Seymor squints at Gaberiel "I do not want to see mini-kovascs running around"

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A tiny, flimsy woman wonders, "What is up in new smithing?"

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Azarial claims, "New crafting is very labour intensive to establish. temi has been working like a fiend on herbalism to advance as quickly as she has."

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Kinaed states, "Okay, folks. Thank you for your patience today."

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Kinaed nods at Azarial.

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Takta claims to a tiny, flimsy woman, "Switching it to the new craft paradigm, which is way cleaner."

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Gaberiel asks of Takta, "Sooooooooooo if they both have a stupid high con, then expect a bayberz on the way?"

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Takta says to a tiny, flimsy woman, "Everything becomes editable about the process builder-side."

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Takta says to Gaberiel, "The odds are higher."

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Kinaed states, "I'm going to close the OOC Chat because we're over time and we have a lot of people with commitments (incluidng myself, sadly)"

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A tiny, flimsy woman claims, "Neat."

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Kinaed pontificates, "But looking forward to seeing you next week!"

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You tell Beronica, "We just now hear of this con bit"

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Gaberiel nods.

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Joudan declaims, "Can I help?!"

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Kinaed pontificates, "Thanks for coming!"

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Beronica tells you, "Yeah. But my con was decent at 60 at the time."

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A young woman with chestnut hair and ice-blue eyes claims, "Laterz"

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Joudan says, "(Can I help write strings)"

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Kinaed claims to Joudan, "Talk to Mady or Temi if you want to assist."

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Azarial questions to Joudan, "Ask mady?"

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Seymor says, "Trans me scotty"

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Kinaed questions, "Staff, can we start transing people back? :)"

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Safir has been transferred out by Kinaed. [OOC]

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Takta questions to Seymor, "Where to?"

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A tiny, flimsy woman has been transferred out by Kinaed. [OOC]

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Joudan begins to count their money.

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Joudan places a single gold coin into a fine vermilion silk sash embroidered with the Urath crest.

Azarial claims, "With the crash, you'll need to ask where they want to go for the most part"

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Takta claims, "Actually, everybody"

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Takta claims, "Tell us where to put you"

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Joudan drops a fistful of silver coins into a fine vermilion silk sash embroidered with the Urath crest.
Beronica has been transferred out by Kinaed. [OOC]

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Takta nods at Azarial.

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Arynon states, "I was in the sevoi room at the keep"

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Kinaed claims to Takta, "You're so nice. I just drop people on Church Street :P"

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Seymor questions, "The planet bellow.. But really um madison entrance i think is where i was at?"

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Aios says, "Black Dog Butchery please."

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Arynon has been transferred out by Takta. [OOC]

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Joudan pontificates, "Penmoor sweet wines!"


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