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Temi states, "
Alright! Agenda for today is, as usual, 1) staff updates, 2) player heartbeat, 3) player topics."


Temi states, "
I'll go ahead and start off staff updates."


Temi says, "
Az and I have been working on asset objects! All of the objects are in the system and ready to go and we're just working on sorting out a few remaining bugs before we can release them to everyone."


Steven queries, "
What kind of objects? Like can I get an asset that provides bananas?"


Temi states, "
Thanks to everyone for your patience over this week with the few crashes related to that work. You can expect shiny new objects soon."


Taunya queries, "
Can you add any item to an asset, or will they be tied to the metric?"


Temi says, "
That sort of thing! I don't think bananas are on there specifically, but there are like pineapples and carrots and things like that, as well as crafting items."


Empena questions, "
Will these be in addition to or instead of a silver asset? Will there be a purchase or swap period?"

Temi has transferred Vicannia. [OOC]

Temi gives a whimsical toy ship with squeaky wheels and painted arrow to Vicannia.


Dorian claims, "
Is it possible to choose what your merit gives you object wise? I say that as a guy who runs a shipping company IC."


Temi claims, "
These will be an add-on to your existing asset, level 2 or level 3. You can select any item from the list, regardless of metric, but you do need to explain how it makes sense."


Taunya declares, "
Sounds good!"


Temi says, "
The object will then be available for purchase by you at any time, possibly for a discount, in addition to your silver."


Dorian says, "
OOH! That sounds nice."

Vicannia passes a whimsical toy ship with squeaky wheels and painted arrow to a member of the Holy Order of Dav for the Alms box.


Temi states, "
There's also limits on how many people can take a single object - one item can't account for more than 5% of the total objects when it's selected."



Temi says, "
And the cost of objects is related to the base silver cost of the object."


Empena questions, "
Like a single thing like ... 50 people can't have pineapples?"

Steven states, "
So if I own a brothel can I get strumpets solace, etc? Asking for a friend."


Dorian imports herbs, spices and medicine making stuffs. To stock his guild with.


Temi nods at Empena.


Dorian claims, "
Just ask a sneaky physican...RP it."


Nadya claims, "
Plenty of cheap ways to prevent preggers."

Temi claims to Steven, "I don't recall if strumpet's solace is on there, but there's ingredients for it that would be."


Steven states, "
It was a joke."


Bofaha says, "
Abstinence comes to mind"
Temi grins.


Nadya questions, "
I wonder. What would it be like to have a pimp as a Justicar?"


Steven claims, "
Ees on good authority, a Vavardi knows hees methods."


Nadya muses, "
Would punishments be backhands, instead of whippings?"


Janus questions, "
Are we still talking about the brothel?"


Bofaha states, "
About a brothel"

Steven states to Nadya, "Lucky we dont need to know the answer."


Temi states, "
Okay.. any more questions about asset objects? We'll make sure it's fully explained when it comes out."


Eirian states, "
None here. Sounds great."


Temi declaims, "
Look forwards to making that available for people. Should be especially great for trader concepts!"


Temi questions, "
Okay, I'll pass the floor off to Az.. you have an update on what you've done this week?"


Bofaha wants a turtle farm asset htat gives out turtles



Empena questions, "
When that happens, will the RPA be available to investigate that stuff?"


Nadya claims, "
Huh. That would be pretty interesting."

Kinaed steps out of your shadow. [OOC]

Nadya states to Kinaed, "I guess you can say you're-- Shady."


Kinaed claims, "
Sorry, timezone shift and my daughter's birthday today."


Azarial claims, "
Well, rl has been shittier than usual, so my concentration hasn;t been the best. hence the crashes. temi a;ready coverd the assets, and I thought i'd work on a small naming issue in recoms while waiting for testing. that has tutned into an entire week of migration of data objects"


Niamh flings herself bodily at Kinaed.



Temi says, "
We don't yet have plans on how to investigate assets, but I'll make a note to bring that up again to discuss."

Temi asks of Kinaed, "That's fine! Want to take back over or have me lead?"


Bofaha settles for more witeld handshake with Kinaed "
Happy bday!"


Kinaed says, "
You can continue; I need to shower then pick up party food, etc."

Temi nods at Kinaed.

Temi nods at Azarial.


Steven exclaims, "
Happy birthday mini Kinaed!"

Temi muses to Kinaed, "Have a quick update for us before you slip off again?"

Kinaed states to Steven, "It's Imagen's on Monday, Oct 9th. Just having a party for her today."


Kinaed declaims, "
Um, I didn't do much last week. Logged in, processed a few things. No policy (thanks everyone!)"


Steven states, "
Thats awesome still"

Bofaha declares to Kinaed, "Glad to be of help!"


Kinaed says, "
On my desk - Jail Automation, Roles UI. Nothing else."

Temi nods at Kinaed.


Kinaed states, "
One day I will clear Jail Automation."


Temi says, "
Okay, back to Az's code stuff... checking updated notes."


Kinaed claims, "
That's it for me."


Temi trails off, "
Looks like mostly bug fixes in addition to those things..."

Steven eats a week's worth of hardy rations tied up with crossing twine.
Steven takes a rough bite of preserved meat.



Temi pontificates, "
Okay, on to Niamh!"

Kinaed has gone AFK.


Steven says, "
Niamh nomnom"


Niamh claims, "
This week the project I focused on was finishing the new Tubori Quarter so it could be reopened. I spent the greatest majority of my week on that. I went through all the guilds and added temporary and permanent writs, included them at the GL shops, and wrote a little helpfile on them. The remainder was the usual requests/typos/recommends and such! That's it for me."


Temi pontificates, "
Awesome job getting that new Tubori Quarter out!"


Niamh declaims to Temi, "Thanks!"


Taunya wonders, "
Will the quarter be limited to the ship, or does it branch out into the existing parts?"


Temi claims, "
For anyone not aware, our little ship today is in commemoration of that new quarter."

Bofaha exclaims to Niamh, "Yet to have to go and visit but awesome anyway!"


Niamh says, "
The Quarter is as it is right now."

Niamh claims to Bofaha, "Dooo iiit."

Bofaha says to Niamh, "When more able to"


Steven says, "
I have something to say about the ship"


Taunya hasn't visited. Is afeared of boats.


Eirian claims, "
Haven't seen it yet, but it's a pretty neat idea."


Nadya asks, "
Can I eat the ship?"

Temi asks of Steven, "Oh?"


Vicannia claims, "
The new quarter certainly is something amazing."


Dorian cheers for Niamh.


Temi wonders to Nadya, "Are you a termite?"

Niamh claims to Nadya, "You can try. I mean, it might work."


Nadya eats
a whimsical toy ship with squeaky wheels and painted arrow.


Steven claims, "
Was pretty cool of yall to include player involvement on that. The ic event with the ships delivery was great."

Eirian nods.

Arlow is idle.

Arlow is no longer idle.
Arlow has returned from AFK.


Dorian says, "
I thought it was well done as well. Involving players was a wonderful way to do that."


Niamh claims, "
It was a really fun project from start to finish, not the least of which was the amount of player involvement."


Dorian feels like his own ship is tiny in comparison....


Niamh grins at Dorian.


Nadya declaims, "
Don't feel insecure about the size of your ship!"

Janus claims to Dorian, "It's not the size of your mast but how you use it."


Bofaha states, "
There is always someone with a bigger ship"


Dorian builds more ship.



Vicannia states, "
Most ships would be... and I'm actually the one who wrote the ic event."

Niamh nods at Vicannia.


Niamh claims, "
Monstership."


Steven claims, "
A leviathan"


Nadya states, "
Ive a question"


Nadya says, "
If tiny ships attached to the big ship"

Eirian pontificates to Vicannia, "That much was obvious. Well done, though!"


Nadya states, "
Is it an alien mothership"

Vicannia states to Steven, "I think Niamh actually called it a juggernaut icly"


Nadya trails off, "
Geddit. Because... Foreign alien..."


Steven states, "
Potatoes Potawtos"


Janus flashes a thumbs up to Nadya.



Niamh claims, "
It was kinda loosely based on this, design-wise: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caligula%27s_Giant_Ship"


Nadya flops to the side, exploding like a hand-grenade.


Temi grins.


Taunya says, "
So, having not vistied, is the quarter the ship only now? Asking in regards to phomes for the area, which would be wood only now I suppose if so."


Robin says, "
There's a street for phomes"


Robin states, "
Highwalk Street"

Niamh claims to Taunya, "There is a riverbank neighborhood freshly erected alongside it."


Eirian says, "
Kewl."

Sauvaige is idle.

Sauvaige is no longer idle.
Sauvaige has returned from AFK.


Vicannia recommends people really do take a look.



Eirian states, "
Also, I don't know if anyone willingly gave up their phome in the fire, but if so, mad kudos."


Temi asks, "
Okay, anything else for Niamh, or should we move on to heartbeat?"


Nadya says, "
I bet the tubori there are scared about someone raising anchor and shanghai'ing them to the highest bidder on the Kirulean."

Niamh exclaims to Temi, "Done here!"


Temi says, "
I don't think we had any active phomes in the Tubori quarter before hand."

Vicannia muses to Nadya, "Did you see what had to be done to get it into the city?"

Niamh nods at Temi.


Nadya claims, "
I know, I know, just think of the profits in human trafficking though."

Temi exclaims, "
There also wasn't really residential space for them either, so this helps that!"

Janus muses to Vicannia, "Super-oxen, wasn't it?"

Eirian grins at Temi.


Vicannia states, "
Oxen and pulleys"


Nadya claims, "
I was kidiiing."


Temi wonders, "
Okay! Transitioning on to Player Heartbeat.. how's RP this weeks folks? How's everyone feeling about the game?"


Nadya states, "
Pretty dang good."


Vicannia laughs "
Up until yesterday rp was great."


Sauvaige states, "
Need to give a big shout out to Vicannia. This campaign has been A+, first time I've been involved in political roleplay and its been heated has heck. "


Eirian states, "
I don't usually comment during heartbeat, but I just want to say to the folks involved in the Seneschal race and debate yesterday: awesome job keeping things interesting. Most fun I've had at a political thing in a long time. Including all the lead-up to the actual debate."


Vicannia trails off, "
Always great when it's never at the cost of your own characters..."


Nadya claims, "
The debate was actually interesting for once. It wasn't just two people talking to eachother. It included almost everyone in the crowd."


Eirian claims, "
The machinations and intrigue are the best part."


Janus says, "
Yes, the campaign has been really interesting to watch develop. Vicannia has done really well for her influences and events posts."


Temi exclaims, "
Make sure to provide shout-outs in recommendation form as well!"


Dorian is doing good! I haven't been around quite as much as I would like but between practicing my crafting, gardening, and fun RP I'm good. I would like more RP with my guild soon though!


Robin claims to Vicannia, "If you don't want to lose your character, don't do things that would warrant their arrest -.-"



Nadya states, "
It was good, either way! Everyone involved was a good sport."

Eirian nods at Nadya.


Temi exclaims, "
I think it's entirely fair to not want bad things to happen to your character, even if you put them at risk. It's awesome for the game when people are willing to take those risks!"

Steven states to Robin, "No need for that."


Vicannia glances to Robin "
Don't speak of things you don't know. You can be the safest character and cover all your tracks, but you can never plan for someone else deciding to betray you."


Nadya says, "
Hey, hey."

Eirian exclaims, "
Betrayal is the best part!"


Eirian claims, "
But yeah, what Temi said."


Temi claims, "
You don't have to want bad things to happen to put yourself into a position where they might."


Steven states, "
It'll be cool to see how things go."

Temi nods.


Temi says, "
It doesn't seem like things are quite done yet."


Steven states, "
Indeed"


Temi muses, "
Anything else on anyone's mind about the state of the game in general? Anything shitting anyone?"


Eirian states, "
Sometimes, innocents are caught up in the bad deeds of others, too."


Vicannia hooks their thumb over their neck, making the typical death sign "
No, the pyring is planned for after the ooc meeting."


Steven claims, "
So long as ooc feelings arent involved on either side, its no bad thing."


Eirian says, "
You don't have to play a bad character to end up on the pyre, etc."


Steven muses, "
The pyring is already planned...?"


Dorian nods in agreement.



Vicannia nods to Steven "
Exactly. Life's too short to hate another player just because they are doing their job."


Janus claims, "
I'd like to add my 'shitting me' thing"

Temi wonders to Janus, "More than your topic later? Or instead of it, but go ahead"

Robin has been transferred out by Temi. [OOC]

Empena is idle.

Bofaha claims to Eirian, "Eh kinda, you have to step on someone toes. "bad" is very relative"


Janus states, "
More than, yes. A lot of OOC emotions are getting involved recently and I'm finding it harder to tell people OOCly that I'm playing a role with defined rules. It's hard to do that when I'm in a covert guild that is literally the most mysterious."

Empena is no longer idle.
Empena has returned from AFK.


Eirian claims, "
Nah. I've seen people with good intentions get the short end, too."

Temi nods at Janus.


Eirian states, "
But as long as it's in the spirit of RP and within policy, them's the breaks that kick you in the feels."


Janus says, "
Without doing a Bond Villain 'this is why this happened' speech, I feel there won't be much closure if people's toes get stepped on."


Nadya claims, "
There are means of conveying that, that don't require an evil dude monologue."


Nadya states, "
Letters that state your intent. Passing them with a whisper of how you're gonna gut them like a fish/etc."

Janus asks of Eirian, "Unfortunately that's my point. Sometimes bad things happen to good characters and they might never know why and I find that irritating. Especially when I've taken some action that someone else has payed for. I don't like being the bad guy... ironic coming from the Rubeus, right?"


Dorian comforts Janus. "
Have you considered leaving IC clues or traces that may or may not be tracked back to you? Even if its just visible to your victims?"

Bofaha nods at Dorian.


Bofaha states, "
Or giving subtle ic warnings"


Nadya states, "
Leaving evidence, while risky, allows for eventually understanding what even happened, for why."


Bofaha claims, "
Sure that also compromises the plot of doing bad things but, well "


Bofaha claims, "
Either can make it "safe" for you, or make it more even keel"


Steven states, "
Tbh I sort of feel sometimes like people are too focused on instant gratification of their own hurt feelings or need to be a 'winner' that they dont take into account the other players involved, innocent/evil/etc."

Temi nods.


Dorian states, "
But then no villain is infallible. They often DO leave calling cards or clues for one reason or another."

Bofaha nods at Steven.


Nadya says, "
Most of the characters ingame right now seem to be noncombatants anyway. If your target is weak, you can definitely take it slow."


Vicannia shrugs to Dorian "
Most of our villians are caught becuase of mail that is found on someone else who is caught. Mail is the most damning thing on this game."


Eirian claims to Janus, "Feel guilty, then? Or use staff to pass along reassuring messages? Not sure what to tell you. I've never felt guilty about destroying anyone ICly in the course of legitimate RP."


Vicannia really feels mail should have a decay timer if it's not posted into a journal or whatnot



Steven says, "
Which is why my villains dont tell people things by mail except under alias."


Azarial states, "
I would love a lot of items to have a decay. alas."


Vicannia says, "
Even alias' can easily be discovered"

Bofaha wonders to Steven, "Is it nevets?"

Safir says, "
Mail can be consigned/burned."


Dorian questions, "
Ah. But don't we have a system where we can assign different names to our mail? So if that happens its more like 'who is this' rather than 'lets arrest this person'"

Janus states to Vicannia, "That's part of the hell of being a bad guy. Write everything like the Order is going to read it."


Nadya claims, "
I mean... Burning letters is a thing."


Azarial states, "
Best bet is to 'memorize' it and consign it as soon ass youg et it"

Janus nods.


Azarial claims, "
You can sign whatever the hell you want to the mail."


Eirian says, "
You can use cnotes to help remember things later or to document things you consign."


Nadya states, "
I do that when I send people paintings of my ankles."

Temi grins.


Vicannia smirks to Azarial "
That's what I do. I'd rather not have someone screwed simply because I like to hoard letters."


Steven claims, "
Mm ankles"

Janus queries to Nadya, "Is this your ankle collection?"

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Temi claims, "
Okay, let's move on to player topics, so we have time for everything."


Azarial claims, "
You can also forge someone;s header and seal, for that extra security."

Bofaha grins at Azarial.

Steven starts writing a note. (This is an OOC action)


Vicannia feels like people forget forgery exists...


Temi queries to Janus, "You had an official topic in addition to this?"

Steven finishes his note.

Janus nods.


Janus states, "
I've experienced players starting scenes and then going AFK or idle without warning. This can interrupt scenes or have people hanging around waiting for a response that won't come and it's getting to happen a lot, specifically with people that play at work. Can we please have an announce board or something similar to say to be courteous to your fellow players and let them know when you are about to go to the shops ... into a meeting ... for an hour's lunch?

I know it's not purposefully malicious, but it's really eaten up a lot of my time this week, and I've heard a lot of complaints about it from the people I play with
."


Bofaha as someone with kids did it, and no warning will help



Nadya says, "
While I agree with this-- There are simply things that can't be avoided."


Eirian states, "
I think Janus is obviously concerned with things that ARE avoidable."


Eirian says, "
And it's a perfectly legitimate point/concern."


Vicannia says, "
This has been a problem I've run into alot more lately as well. People I'm rping with for quite sometime, and suddenly they just poof, and I'm stuck waiting for them to come back until I just decided to say muck and head off"


Azarial says, "
A quick one letter ingame alias can help with that."


Temi wonders, "
Meaning just a quick osay about what's going on before you drop?"


Temi states, "
I have seen more people randomly dropping and not coming back lately in my own RP, I think."

Eirian states to Janus, "Totally feel you there."


Azarial declares, "
Alias f osay the poopacalypse has come! again! squirrels everywhere!"

Janus nods at Vicannia.


Nadya queries, "
Azarial are you... okay?"

Bofaha states to Azarial, "Don't mess with the zohan"

Nadya queries to Azarial, "Who hurt you?"


Dorian claims, "
I understand the annoyance here. I am afraid I may be guilty of it in fact. My internet is extremely glitchy and often fails on me so sometimes it drops mid scene and doesn't want to work. I apologize for that."


Vicannia claims, "
And if it's a connection issue, let people know before you even begin the scene. My internet is dog shit and I've rped with many people I've let know in advance that I may randomly drop"

Temi says to Nadya, "He's demonstrating how to alias a 'gotta split'"

Temi nods at Dorian.


Dorian nods to Vicannia.



Eirian says, "
A little advance warning goes a long way, I'm sure."


Nadya states, "
Oh, we're talking about basic RP ettiquette."

Janus claims to Dorian, "It's nobody specific :) If you have troubles with your internet, then that's not your fault. Just OSAY before we start getting into the heavy petting"


Temi says, "
Maybe let people know if you're aware it's being spotty."

Temi nods at Dorian.


Dorian states, "
I will be sure to warn before my scenes then. "


Azarial says, "
A squirrel tail is one of those deligghtful things newborns do."


Temi states, "
People are understanding for sure, but it helps to be aware."


Bofaha states, "
Seems like best to drop a friendly pboard to speicifc people rather than pbase wide announce"


Eirian states to Temi, "I have a topic, and it's minor."


Temi queries, "
Do we think an official announcement is needed, or just bringing it up for consideration here may do some good?"

Temi nods at Eirian.

Janus exclaims to Bofaha, "I don't want to single people out, but I'll give it a go. I'm not good at confrontations! haha"


Eirian claims, "
I don't think a reminder to the pbase hurts."


Eirian claims, "
Not everyone is here."

Bofaha states to Janus, "That's not singling out, just a friendly pboard that only you and the person sees"

Janus states to Temi, "I think most of the people here have good RP etiquette. I still feel it needs an announce just as a reminder."


Temi says, "
I'll see if there's something easy we can do for that."

Temi nods.


Temi wonders, "
Moving on then! Empena, you had a topic?"


Janus claims, "
Thanks"


Empena claims, "
I've brought this up before, but I'd like to bring up the IP to silver ratio. When you purchase IP it costs 200 silver per 1 IP, however, if it is not used during the week, you only get back 1 silver per, which is often less than it costs to buy the rumours to fuel IP creation/use. That seems a bit off."

Janus nods.


Eirian trails off, "
I wouldn't purchase it unless you need it..."

Bofaha nods at Eirian.


Steven states, "
I sort of feel the cost for IP is appropriate."

Janus nods at Eirian.


Steven says, "
It hurts the wallet which it should."


Bofaha states, "
Its supposed to be a rare tool, but it's there"


Janus states, "
Otherwise you could get paid 200 silver per rumour you help spread."


Eirian says, "
Getting anything back is just like... free money, really."


Azarial claims, "
You can look at it as IP is not a coin that nets you silver. it nets you other things"


Eirian says, "
As long as you're not improving IP unnecessarily and ending up with leftovers, it should only benefit you when rollover happens."


Temi states, "
Yeah, I wouldn't convert money into IP until you're ready to spend or pass off. I did discuss with someone that maybe there should be a warning on purchasing it about how long before the rollover"

Eirian says to Temi, "That'd be great, actually."

Janus nods.


Nadya states, "
I feel like there should be a bit of consideration to the cost to it, however."

Temi questions to Azarial, "Is that a hard thing to do?"


Nadya wonders, "
I mean, that's an OOC week's worth right there, that doesn't go anywhere but a sinkhole, right?"


Nadya questions, "
Maybe if the money was circulated somewhere? Like the seneschal's treasury?"

Azarial says to Temi, "Probably not. I can just clone out some code from the city report, I think."


Steven states, "
I dont feel a weekly paycheck should cover the cost of a full 5 IP buy"


Nadya trails off, "
But... It doesn"


Azarial claims, "
Some is recycled, but without a decent array of sinks, silver adds up adn becomes valueless"


Steven states, "
And thats a good thing"


Steven says, "
1k for 5 IP seems pretty reasonable to me."


Temi states, "
IP purchase would normally be spreading silver around all sorts of places to grease wheels and things."


Eirian claims, "
Cost of IP right now is good, imo. It shouldn't be cheap."


Temi claims, "
Can we get an idea how many people feel the ratio is good, and how many think it comes a little dear? Right now I'm hearing mostly good costs."


Bofaha says, "
Seems sensible too me"


Eirian claims, "
Just don't purchase it unless you need it right then, and you won't lose money."


Bofaha states, "
Now that silver is not endless, even more so"


Janus states, "
Works for me"


Eirian says, "
ICly, you can think of it as paying out to mobilize your supporters, lackeys, etc. in the moment."

Temi has transferred Milo. [OOC]

Temi gives a whimsical toy ship with squeaky wheels and painted arrow to Milo.


Nadya claims, "
I'm just saying, there's some very limited use to IP, and the value of silver's mostly pretty steep due to the change in assets."


Steven claims, "
Considering you can fairly easily get 5 to do most things that use IP, I think it being costly for another 5 is rather good."


Vicannia shrugs "
I think it's fine, but of course most of these fines are only coming from those with hefty amounts of silver

Janus says to Nadya, "Bids and metrics"

Bofaha states to Nadya, "But that's ip that comes from "nowhere" there are great IC ways to make a lot of IC, well, icly"


Taunya claims, "
I think it could come down a tad, grease the wheels a bit since silver is harder to come by now and IP has some fun ways to influnce your RP"


Eirian says, "
Speaking of uses for IP -- loving the changes to the rumor system."


Bofaha states, "
Make a lot of IP*"


Steven says, "
I just created recently and Im fine with the cost."

Janus questions to Eirian, "What changes?"


Vicannia muses, "
What were the changes to the rumor system?"


Milo says, "
I'm not sure how to make a lot of ip other than rumors honestly, but I don't see a problem with it."


Bofaha asks, "
The warning?"

Eirian says, "
Most of the IP you get should be from getting support via RP -- not from the 'improve' command, anyway."



Temi claims, "
We're glad for more suggestions for uses for IP too as people have them."

Eirian declares to Janus, "The ability to spend IP to comment on a rumor multiple times!"


Nadya states, "
I'm not trying to downtalk anyone, or try and speak really poorly--"

Temi nods at Nadya.

Bofaha claims to Eirian, "That was always there, just, well, without a warning i think"


Nadya says, "
But... Eirian, that's been in place for a long time."


Steven asks, "
How do assets work with IP?"


Vicannia trails off, "
I should note it feels like posting rumors to get ip was heavily abused this seneschal campaign... 5 rumors in a row shittalking one person"


Eirian claims, "
It's recent to me, people."


Steven asks, "
I see you can redeem some for it?"


Eirian chuckles.



Dorian muses, "
Are IP used to affect metrics? Like say someone using thier influence to help or harm a metric that would put them at an advantage?"


Milo claims, "
Yes."


Nadya states, "
5 IP for a vote."


Eirian says, "
I didn't post multiple rumors at all this campaign -- too busy saving IP for bid influences."

Bofaha claims to Vicannia, "Not sure why would that be abused, you put yourself into the public eye - you get talked about. If the rumors are, well, bad, report them"

Taunya claims to Steven, "
Can't redeem for IP at this time. only way the intersect at the moment is you can use IP to affect the metric for your asset"


Steven claims, "
Would be neat if I could purchase more than one metric vote If I have more IP"


Milo says, "
I frankly don't see a problem with the rumor system as it stands. I mean people are mean, just...happens."


Janus claims, "
I must admit the rumours seemed a bit excessive this campaign"

Vicannia states to Bofaha, ""There's posting a rumor shittalking, and then there is 4 or 5 rumors in consequetive order shittalking one person.""

Steven states to Janus, "Agreed."

Bofaha states to Vicannia, "If you think this is done for OOC, not IC reasons please report with staff. I dont that before and it was dealt with"


Steven says, "
But thats a player issue moreso than a system problem"


Bofaha says, "
But then there are A LOT OF ic_events going around.."


Eirian claims, "
I shit-talked exactly once per rumor."


Eirian chuckles.



Temi asks, "
Okay, let's move on to the next topic. Eirian, you had something quickly?"


Eirian claims, "
Yes! I was wondering if I'm the only one having trouble logging into my blog since the shift to https."


Vicannia shrugs to Bofaha "
I don't think it's an occ issue... just moreso a human decency thing. But I've seen where the discussion on that has gone."


Temi claims, "
I did see a report of it.. I think that was you though."


Vicannia states, "
And I haven't even tried to log into my blog"

Niamh states to Eirian, "Ack, I saw that note and promptly distracted myself. I'll give it a peek this evening."


Eirian says, "
Yeah, I reported an issue... would like to throw a post on my blog, but I can't get in. Just want to be sure it's not me being retarded."

Bofaha says to Vicannia, "I am not on either side of this, but when I see 3+ IC_EVENTs talking nicely of a person, i don't see fault with as many bad rumors"


Temi exclaims, "
Okay, Niamh's on it!"


Eirian thumbs up.



Vicannia says, "
Yep, can't log in either. Just tried."

Niamh nods.

Eirian claims to Vicannia, "Thank ya."


Temi states, "
As a note on the rumors thing, and the IC Events, that's the process for the bids, is to have these announcements on IC Events board."


Eirian states, "
Will wait for staff resolution, then."


Steven says, "
Eh, mudslinging is a perfectly political thing. "


Temi says, "
As long as it's different topics, separate rumors is fine, even if it surrounds the same person."


Steven states, "
I wouldnt think too hard on them."

Bofaha nods at Temi.


Temi says, "
If it's essentially the same topic, let us know and we'll squash it."


Milo claims, "
I kind of assume it's going to happen more now that there's IC events coming along now with the bids."


Steven says, "
I would however like to see bids tied more to the player making em."


Vicannia shrugs to Steven "
Could just me being sensitive. Ever since someone called my character a pedophile via rumors, I've been far more... gentler with rumors than I would have in past."


Eirian states, "
Things have been sorta similar, or spinoffs, but I haven't seen anything that would warrant staff intervention."


Steven says, "
Or traceable back to them maybe"


Janus claims, "
If someone could start a rumour about how great the Rubeus is, I'd definitely get behind that."

Vicannia trails off to Steven, "Goodluck with traceable..."


Temi wonders, "
Okay then! Moving on to our last topic since we're officially out of time. Nadya, you had a peptalk?"

Eirian grins at Janus.


Taunya claims, "
Oh, I have a quick question, if there's time."


Steven muses, "
Does the Rubeus have a ruby crown?"


Steven states, "
Plz say yes."

Niamh muses to Steven, "If he doesn't he should. Yule gift?"


Milo groans.



Janus states, "
Working on it."

Bofaha trails off to Niamh, "Not the wooden... entertainment devices again"


Dorian says, "
Thats probably classifed information Steven."


Steven states, "
Where can I direct Yule Gifts."


Azarial states, "
It takes a while to convert blood into gems."


Janus says, "
Yes to gifts please. Bored of threats."


Nadya states, "
This week I've seen a ton of good stuff. Good sportsmanship, and some really good attitudes. It feels nice to see that at least there's no explosions, or harsh feelings."


Janus says, "
Anyone can mail me at RUBEUS."


Steven states, "
Even the courier of evil needs a hug on Yule."


Nadya says, "
You dudes are the Reese Witherspoons of TI"


Nadya queries, "
Is that a compliment?"


Nadya asks, "
Did I even spell that right?"

Janus asks of Nadya, "...do you want explosions?"


Azarial shrugs eloquently with more tail than shoulders.


Janus says to Nadya, "...because that's how you get explosions."


Dorian goes to set something on fire now?



Milo joins in!


Steven states to Janus, "Or ants."


Dorian says, "
And he spoke of booms. And he got booms."


Eirian chuckles.



Nadya claims, "
Done! You're all dorks that deserve recommends."


Bofaha states, "
Explosive ants"

Nadya claims to Janus, "Your kind still owes me a pound of flesh."

Janus states to Steven, "Or ants."

Temi grins.


Dorian hugs!



Temi asks, "
Okay, Taunya, was your thing quick?"

Janus asks of Nadya, "'Your kind'? What do you mean by 'your kind'?"

Vicannia has been transferred out by Temi. [OOC]


Milo leans on Dorian


[Action: Janus shuts up and listens. ]


Taunya wonders, "
'My question is in regards to striking a bounty- if done, does gold poof, or is there another detriment to prevent the same bounty from just being immediately posted again?"
(This is an OOC room. Nothing counts for rpxp here.)



Temi says, "
I believe the gold is returned, but you should not just post again by policy."


Steven muses, "
Do bounties still cost as much to strike?"


Bofaha finishes abruptly, "
Just like with rumors, its quashed - go away"


Taunya exclaims, "
Got it, thanks!"


Temi claims, "
I don't think we've adjsuted the costs on that, no"


Eirian claims, "
I'm surprised that the gold would be returned, considering how much it takes to strike a bounty."


Azarial claims, "
Some have a bnus to striking them. and I believe part of the bounty posted is kept"


Temi states, "
I don't recall fully how it works at the moment. Sounds like there's some loss."

Temi nods at Azarial.


Temi states, "
Maybe that was the thieves cut or such"


Eirian states, "
I would think that having a bounty stricken would be a good deterrent to posting again, if there were some cost."


Eirian states, "
Instead of it being a policy thing."


Nadya muses, "
... There's a cost to striking a bounty, but no malus to posting it again?"


Azarial claims, "
By policy don;t post it again."

Bofaha claims to Nadya, "Besides breaking policy"


Nadya claims, "
Oh, thank goodness."


Steven claims, "
I got one thing to mention before we close out"


Eirian claims, "
If you can provide a good IC deterrent, you don't need a policy one."

Empena is idle.

Niamh starts writing a note. (This is an OOC action)

Empena is no longer idle.
Empena has returned from AFK.


Steven says, "
Shameless plug - Reeves is still recruiting."


Temi says, "
Okay, let's go ahead and wrap up. We're past time."


Temi declaims, "
Thanks all for coming!"


Nadya declares, "
Temi's a nerd!"

Eirian waves.

Taunya waves.

Milo waves.


Temi claims, "
We play a text based mud.. we're all nerds."


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