Log of OOC Meeting - 2017-08-6

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Log of OOC Meeting - 2017-08-6

Postby Puciek » Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:21 pm

11:06:17p | Moxie declares, "I have a topic!"
11:06:17p |
11:06:28p |
11:06:28p | Temi pontificates, "Okay!"
11:06:28p |
11:06:35p |
11:06:35p | Moxie states, "It's not really a topic, more of a dear diary."
11:06:35p |
11:06:47p |
11:06:47p | Temi claims, "That's okay. We'll be a bit short today, I think."
11:06:47p |
11:06:47p | Temi grins.
11:06:47p |
11:06:56p | say pretty sure we won't run OT
11:06:56p |
11:06:56p | Bofaha claims, "Pretty sure we won't run OT"
11:06:56p |
11:07:07p |
11:07:07p | Temi declares, "If anyone else thinks of anything, do let me know!"
11:07:07p |
11:07:07p |
11:07:07p | Moxie claims, "I'm short every day."
11:07:07p |
11:07:13p |
11:07:13p | Temi pontificates, "So.. staff updates!"
11:07:13p |
11:07:33p |
11:07:33p | Temi claims, "For myself, not a whole lot very exciting. Getting caught up on some plots and things."
11:07:33p |
11:07:45p | sayto Temi and we love you for it!
11:07:45p | Bofaha declares to Temi, "And we love you for it!"
11:07:45p |
11:07:52p | say all the plots!
11:07:52p |
11:07:52p | Bofaha declares, "All the plots!"
11:07:52p |
11:09:07p |
11:09:07p | Temi says, "Niamh left a small update for us: If I miss the OOC meeting, did riot plotty stuff and requests/typos/recommends."
11:09:07p |
11:09:13p |
11:09:13p | Moxie flashes a thumbs up.
11:09:13p |
11:09:50p | say aw yes!
11:09:50p |
11:09:50p | Bofaha exclaims, "Aw yes!"
11:09:50p |
11:09:53p |
11:09:53p | Temi states, "Based on the change board, it looks like Az has been mainly working on some little bugs and things. I don't see any major new specs of stuff."
11:09:53p |
11:11:11p | say yay and cheers for az!
11:11:11p |
11:11:11p | Bofaha exclaims, "Yay and cheers for az!"
11:11:11p |
11:11:20p | emote feels silly doing his usual comments with no audience
11:11:20p |
11:11:20p | Bofaha feels silly doing his usual comments with no audience
11:11:20p |
11:11:26p | Temi grins.
11:11:26p |
11:11:31p |
11:11:31p | Taunya grins.
11:11:31p |
11:11:39p | say can we get some npcs in at least?
11:11:40p |
11:11:40p | Bofaha queries, "Can we get some npcs in at least?"
11:11:40p |
11:11:47p |
11:11:47p | Moxie becomes an NPC.
11:11:47p |
11:11:58p | Temi has created a woman!
11:11:58p |
11:11:59p |
11:11:59p | Taunya states, "Ohh, load Cait."
11:12:09p |
11:12:09p | Bofaha declaims, "Yay!"
11:12:09p |
11:12:22p |
11:12:22p | Moxie states, "If Bofaha had that power he'd never leave the house."
11:12:22p |
11:12:32p | say ha!
11:12:32p |
11:12:32p | Bofaha pontificates, "Ha!"
11:12:32p |
11:12:38p | say not untrue statement
11:12:39p |
11:12:39p | Bofaha states, "Not untrue statement"
11:12:39p |
11:12:59p |
11:12:59p | Temi asks, "Okay, that brings us on to our next segment! Player heartbeat. How's RP been this week?"
11:12:59p |
11:13:10p |
11:13:10p | Taunya declares, "Lot's going on!"
11:13:10p |
11:13:22p | say RP was okay. Some policy that got in the way and ruined it though, quite royally ruined it
11:13:22p |
11:13:22p | Bofaha says, "RP was okay. Some policy that got in the way and ruined it though, quite royally ruined it"
11:13:22p |
11:13:34p | emote blehs
11:13:35p |
11:13:35p | Bofaha blehs
11:13:35p |
11:13:51p |
11:13:51p | Moxie wonders, "Policy? What kind of policy? The no-sale thing?"
11:13:51p |
11:14:06p | sayto Moxie actual policy related issues that happened on grid
11:14:07p | Bofaha says to Moxie, "Actual policy related issues that happened on grid"
11:14:07p |
11:14:17p |
11:14:17p | Moxie claims, "Oh. OH."
11:14:17p |
11:14:22p |
11:14:22p | Temi queries, "People breaking policy, or a policy itself was a problem?"
11:14:22p |
11:14:32p | sayto Temi former
11:14:32p | Bofaha states to Temi, "Former"
11:14:32p |
11:14:51p | say it was resolved, but always puts me off for couple days when it happens
11:14:51p |
11:14:51p | Bofaha says, "It was resolved, but always puts me off for couple days when it happens"
11:14:51p |
11:15:09p |
11:15:09p | Temi asks, "That's never any good. Hopefully we can avoid it. How about for everyone else?"
11:15:09p |
11:15:12p |
11:15:12p | Moxie states, "RP was... okay, but we've got a lot of people causing conflict at the moment, and not a whole lot of people working to resolve it. Basically we're DnD with an all-evil party right now."
11:15:12p |
11:15:29p |
11:15:29p | Moxie claims, "Bofaha, our usual conflict player, even had to switch sides"
11:15:29p |
11:15:36p |
11:15:36p | Moxie winks at Bofaha.
11:15:36p |
11:15:38p | sayto Moxie join the order and help resolve it!
11:15:38p | Bofaha declares to Moxie, "Join the order and help resolve it!"
11:15:38p | Temi grins.
11:15:38p |
11:15:42p | say we have apps open
11:15:42p |
11:15:42p | Bofaha states, "We have apps open"
11:15:42p |
11:15:52p |
11:15:52p | Moxie states, "Yeah... no."
11:15:52p |
11:15:57p | say from page to inquisitor
11:15:57p |
11:15:57p | Bofaha claims, "From page to inquisitor"
11:15:57p |
11:16:25p | say because order will be defunct for quite a few more weeks at least if no one apps in, that is reality
11:16:26p |
11:16:26p | Bofaha claims, "Because order will be defunct for quite a few more weeks at least if no one apps in, that is reality"
11:16:26p |
11:16:47p |
11:16:47p | Moxie states, "Basically there are people playing murder hobos and supermages, and the balance is not in favour of the church or the reeves. Was pretty sure they had to be applications for those sort of characters"
11:16:47p |
11:16:55p |
11:16:55p | Taunya says, "Things have been busy for Prisca, should start to see signs of what she's been up to this coming week"
11:16:55p |
11:17:04p | Temi has transferred Empena. [OOC]
11:17:04p |
11:17:06p | Temi gives a miniature, metal pitchfork with a polished, wooden handle to Empena.
11:17:06p |
11:17:16p | emote waves his pitchfork at /empena
11:17:16p |
11:17:16p | Bofaha waves his pitchfork at Empena
11:17:16p |
11:17:24p |
11:17:24p | Moxie declaims, "Hey hey, it's Empena!"
11:17:24p |
11:17:39p | sayto Moxie Some of the aggression will slow down now
11:17:40p | Bofaha claims to Moxie, "Some of the aggression will slow down now"
11:17:40p |
11:17:45p | say at least the random part of it
11:17:45p |
11:17:45p | Bofaha says, "At least the random part of it"
11:17:45p |
11:18:50p |
11:18:50p | Temi claims, "There are applications required for serial killers, but not for all sorts of villainous behavior."
11:18:50p |
11:19:11p | say ayup! Though I couldn't find the helpfile for serial killer apps, can you point me to the name?
11:19:12p |
11:19:12p | Bofaha queries, "Ayup! Though I couldn't find the helpfile for serial killer apps, can you point me to the name?"
11:19:12p |
11:19:16p | say or maybe I am just going blind
11:19:16p |
11:19:16p | Bofaha states, "Or maybe I am just going blind"
11:19:16p |
11:19:17p |
11:19:17p | Empena wonders, "Can I ask a question about That?"
11:19:17p |
11:19:42p |
11:19:42p | Temi says, "It's in help policy pkill"
11:19:42p |
11:19:44p |
11:19:44p | Temi queries, "What's that?"
11:19:44p |
11:19:53p | help policy pkill
11:20:09p | sayto Temi thanks!
11:20:10p | Bofaha declaims to Temi, "Thanks!"
11:20:10p |
11:20:20p | sayto Temi I think serial killers is that
11:20:21p | Bofaha states to Temi, "I think serial killers is that"
11:20:21p |
11:20:38p |
11:20:38p | Temi wonders, "I mean, what's the question?"
11:20:38p |
11:22:24p |
11:22:24p | Empena claims, "It seems to me, and this could totally just be perception but sometimes people seem to sort of get around needing to app in or request a serial killer background by RPing "going crazy." Indeed there was the commentary last meeting about running chars like terrorists and on Discord today a discussion about the OOC motivations for IC killing. So sometimes it feels like the line there is being skirted."
11:22:24p |
11:22:49p | emote nods in agreement "That is why i watned that helpfile, to point it to them
11:22:49p |
11:22:49p | Bofaha nods in agreement "That is why i watned that helpfile, to point it to them
11:22:49p |
11:24:09p | say it was 2 meetings ago actually
11:24:09p |
11:24:09p | Bofaha says, "It was 2 meetings ago actually"
11:24:09p |
11:24:16p | emote just checked
11:24:16p |
11:24:16p | Bofaha just checked
11:24:16p |
11:24:19p |
11:24:19p | Empena says, "Ah, my apologies"
11:24:19p |
11:24:40p |
11:24:40p | Temi says, "Someone who 'goes crazy' and just starts murdering people would definitely need staff approval. Goes crazy and kills pointed people for a certain reason (related to their RP, not 'because they're an x') is different and could certainly happen"
11:24:40p |
11:25:49p |
11:25:49p | Moxie claims, "'because they're an order member' seems to be the running theme or 'because they're gentry'"
11:25:49p |
11:26:22p |
11:26:22p | Moxie states, "I'm not against pkilling."
11:26:22p |
11:26:54p |
11:26:54p | Temi states, "That'd fall to policy to determine where that line goes. Though I will say that it's often not evident when people have had specific interactions with someone."
11:26:54p |
11:27:05p |
11:27:05p | Taunya nods.
11:27:05p |
11:27:22p | say that is why its best to report it and let staff figure it out, they know all the secret handshakes. And it never hurts to ask for a validation
11:27:22p |
11:27:22p | Bofaha states, "That is why its best to report it and let staff figure it out, they know all the secret handshakes. And it never hurts to ask for a validation"
11:27:22p |
11:29:54p | Temi nods.
11:29:54p |
11:30:08p |
11:30:08p | Temi queries, "Okay! Anything else bothering anybody, things on your mind, etc?"
11:30:08p |
11:30:26p |
11:30:26p | Moxie says, "Yeah"
11:30:26p |
11:30:29p |
11:30:29p | (visnet) Player Jakob: Is the OOC chat happening?
11:30:29p |
11:30:34p |
11:30:34p | (visnet) Player Moxie: We're here!
11:30:34p |
11:31:00p |
11:31:00p | (visnet) Staff Temi: Want a ride?
11:31:00p |
11:31:42p |
11:31:42p | Moxie queries, "Scene stealing is really bothering me, or has been the past few weeks. I'll be in a scene and someone will come and cause conflict and it'll be like, 'well, I guess we're doing that now.' Is there a good way to avoid that, or politely say to someone 'we don't need to amp this scene up to be high tension all the time. Can we just get something done for once'?"
11:31:42p |
11:31:59p | sayto Moxie rp behind closed doors
11:31:59p | Bofaha states to Moxie, "Rp behind closed doors"
11:31:59p |
11:32:11p | say public scenes are, well, public
11:32:11p |
11:32:11p | Bofaha claims, "Public scenes are, well, public"
11:32:11p |
11:33:09p |
11:33:09p | Moxie says, "I'm talking about guild meetings, trades, interpersonal conversations. They don't have to be public for people to scene steal."
11:33:09p |
11:33:29p |
11:33:29p | Temi states, "Behind closed doors is one way, or running things as a story, if it's a planned sort of scene story."
11:33:29p |
11:33:42p |
11:33:42p | Empena claims, "That the mob plot reaction to the low metrics can feel a bit ... off when half of the admitted GLs are away for a bit. It puts a lot of pressure on who is left active. Like, I'd almost request consideration on that."
11:33:42p |
11:34:04p |
11:34:04p | Moxie states, "Not just on Moxie but on my alts too. It's just basic mechanics of guild politics etc. Sometimes you just need to get things done with."
11:34:04p |
11:34:13p |
11:34:13p | Temi states, "But, public things are non-consensual, so we can tell people to be considerate, but we don't want to tell them they aren't allowed to do things."
11:34:13p |
11:34:18p |
11:34:18p | (visnet) Player Jakob: Yes please!
11:34:18p |
11:34:22p | Temi has transferred Jakob. [OOC]
11:34:22p |
11:34:27p | Temi gives a miniature, metal pitchfork with a polished, wooden handle to Jakob.
11:34:27p |
11:34:32p |
11:34:32p | Moxie states, "For sure. I think this is just something I have to deal with. My question wasn't very well formed"
11:34:32p |
11:34:47p | say Some people don't want you to get your things done, it's part of it
11:34:47p |
11:34:47p | Bofaha states, "Some people don't want you to get your things done, it's part of it"
11:34:47p |
11:35:21p | Temi states to Jakob, "We were just discussing if there's a good way to handle 'scene stealing' - people coming into your scene and causing trouble and making it all about them."
11:35:21p |
11:35:32p |
11:35:32p | Moxie claims, "Basically it feels like a lot of effort to get things done for other people. TL;DR sometimes the game is feeling more like a chore than a game."
11:35:32p |
11:35:46p | sayto Temi I think that is the prolbem in it "your scene", no one really owns a scene unless you do it as ST
11:35:47p | Bofaha states to Temi, "I think that is the prolbem in it "your scene", no one really owns a scene unless you do it as ST"
11:35:47p |
11:35:56p |
11:35:56p | Jakob claims, "There's a fine line with that, I think. Some of it is great RP, and some of it is obnoxious"
11:35:56p |
11:36:01p | Temi nods in agreement.
11:36:01p |
11:36:20p | say but then, if someone is an IC ass, get your bodyguard to throw them out icly
11:36:20p |
11:36:20p | Bofaha claims, "But then, if someone is an IC ass, get your bodyguard to throw them out icly"
11:36:20p |
11:36:26p |
11:36:26p | Temi claims, "Yeah. Generally, I don't believe that our players are doing anything, thinking it will be an obnoxious interruption."
11:36:26p |
11:36:48p |
11:36:48p | Temi says, "They think it will be more fun for everyone. The sad truth is.. sometimes it's welcome and sometimes it's not."
11:36:48p |
11:37:01p |
11:37:01p | Temi states, "If anyone does have suggestions on that though.."
11:37:01p |
11:37:47p |
11:37:47p | Jakob says, "I think there are IC avenues to deal with the obnoxious ones"
11:37:47p |
11:38:09p | Temi nods.
11:38:09p |
11:38:11p |
11:38:11p | Empena states, "Try and get a flow for the RP currently happening in a room before making a decision. Realise you don't need to be the centre of attention in every scene."
11:38:11p |
11:38:29p | sayto Jakob ayup! And I don't think there is anything to really suggest here, if you want it to stick to the plan, lock the doors or run it as ST. But consideration is always good as Emp says.
11:38:30p | Bofaha says to Jakob, "Ayup! And I don't think there is anything to really suggest here, if you want it to stick to the plan, lock the doors or run it as ST. But consideration is always good as Emp says."
11:38:30p | Temi nods at Empena.
11:38:30p |
11:39:23p | A small arctic fox darts past you, then pauses and grins. Nine tails flutter behind her as she stands and becomes Azarial. [OOC]
11:39:23p |
11:39:24p | Azarial has returned from AFK.
11:39:24p |
11:40:15p |
11:40:15p | Empena claims, "Realise if people do bust up public RP with melodrama on the regular it will encourage hiding which does nothing for overall RP."
11:40:15p |
11:40:26p | Temi waves to Azarial.
11:40:26p |
11:40:28p | Azarial waves.
11:40:28p |
11:40:35p |
11:40:35p | Temi questions, "Hey Az! Did you have any update you wanted to give?"
11:40:35p |
11:40:40p | say is it bird? is it a plane? No it's az!
11:40:41p | Temi gives a miniature, metal pitchfork with a polished, wooden handle to Azarial.
11:40:41p |
11:40:41p |
11:40:41p | Bofaha exclaims, "Is it bird? is it a plane? No it's az!"
11:40:41p |
11:40:42p |
11:40:42p | Azarial claims, "Rotors swapped, so have a bit more time to obtain new clipers."
11:40:42p |
11:40:57p |
11:40:57p | Azarial states, "Umm. the server bug should be nailed."
11:40:57p |
11:40:57p |
11:40:57p | Moxie claims, "Yeah, I've a problem with a melodramatic player at the moment. Everything is an uphill battle."
11:40:57p |
11:41:30p |
11:41:30p | Azarial says, "A few other typos and bugs. tenebrae should be subvertable now."
11:41:30p |
11:41:48p | Temi nods.
11:41:48p |
11:41:53p | satyo Azarial I am sure that he is pleased to hear that
11:41:53p | Unrecognized command. Perhaps you meant the following:
11:41:53p | south sit sheathe sayto shout
11:41:53p | shoot
11:41:53p |
11:41:56p |
11:41:56p | Azarial says, "Nothing really comes to mind"
11:41:56p |
11:41:57p | sayto Azarial I am sure that he is pleased to hear that
11:41:57p | Bofaha says to Azarial, "I am sure that he is pleased to hear that"
11:41:57p |
11:41:57p | Temi claims, "It looked like mainly bugs from the changes board, but wanted to make sure."
11:41:57p |
11:42:29p |
11:42:29p | Azarial states, "Assets still need a few more tweaks, but those appear to have mostlys ettled in."
11:42:29p | Temi questions to Azarial, "As I mentioned a moment ago, we were just discussing if there's a good way to handle 'scene stealing' - people coming into your scene and causing trouble and making it all about them... did anyone want to say anything more about that?"
11:42:29p |
11:42:34p | Temi nods at Azarial.
11:42:34p |
11:43:17p |
11:43:17p | Taunya says, "I generally keep whererp off and ask any partners to do the same if I don't want it interrupted."
11:43:38p |
11:43:39p | Temi nods.
11:43:39p |
11:43:49p |
11:43:49p | Moxie states, "That's not a bad idea, Taunya. On the complete opposite side of scene stealing, I've seen people join scenes in taverns and, even when asked questions directly or asked to participate, they just ignore interaction and sit there by themselves leeching the XP. My suspicion is that people are doing this on alts to feed mains."
11:43:49p |
11:43:53p |
11:43:53p | Temi states, "That's a good hint."
11:43:53p |
11:44:19p |
11:44:19p | Moxie claims, "You can't force people to play, but it still infuriates me."
11:44:19p |
11:44:43p | Temi nods at Moxie.
11:44:43p |
11:45:16p |
11:45:16p | Moxie claims, "And it's not that they just sit there, either. They'll occaisionally look at their drink or hemote looking out the window to keep the XP bouncing along."
11:45:16p |
11:45:24p |
11:45:24p | Moxie froths at the mouth as she continues her rant.
11:45:24p |
11:45:40p | emote muses "What's wrong with making background. Not everyone sits on large bag of XP"
11:45:40p |
11:45:40p | Bofaha muses "What's wrong with making background. Not everyone sits on large bag of XP"
11:45:40p |
11:45:41p |
11:45:41p | Empena says, "The difficulty is when a lot if people start going off Who or Where, some people get really nervous when there's 12 people hiding off Who it's an impending apocalypse."
11:45:41p |
11:45:41p |
11:45:41p | Temi states, "Obviously, we'd rather people RP in scenes, but as long as they are ICly there... they don't have to be interesting. Their own loss really."
11:45:41p |
11:46:06p | Taunya nods.
11:46:06p |
11:46:35p |
11:46:35p | Empena queries, "Isn't being in a scene and ignoring people RPing with you avoiding RP though?"
11:46:35p |
11:46:40p |
11:46:40p | Taunya claims, "I haven't encountered that, but I avoid taverns RP in general"
11:46:40p |
11:47:01p | sayto Empena it's not ignoring per se, just being passive
11:47:01p | Bofaha claims to Empena, "It's not ignoring per se, just being passive"
11:47:01p |
11:47:16p | emote sees noething wrong with some background for XP, been there, needed that
11:47:17p |
11:47:17p | Bofaha sees noething wrong with some background for XP, been there, needed that
11:47:17p |
11:47:27p | Temi nods.
11:47:27p |
11:47:50p |
11:47:50p | Moxie says, "I don't mind if they're there or not, it's the avoiding and ignoring interaction from other people that I find frustrating."
11:47:50p |
11:47:58p |
11:47:58p | Jakob claims, "I wish there were more things to do with XP past a certain point"
11:47:58p |
11:48:05p | say I mean, if you don't have XP buildup, you are looking over 1h of RP to raise a skill by a notch.
11:48:06p |
11:48:06p | Bofaha states, "I mean, if you don't have XP buildup, you are looking over 1h of RP to raise a skill by a notch. "
11:48:06p |
11:48:08p | sayto Jakob right?
11:48:08p | Bofaha asks of Jakob, "Right?"
11:48:08p |
11:48:15p | emote takes a swim in it occasionally
11:48:16p |
11:48:16p | Bofaha takes a swim in it occasionally
11:48:16p |
11:48:16p |
11:48:16p | Jakob states, "It's hard to remember to think when you don't pay attention to XP and such"
11:48:16p |
11:48:29p |
11:48:29p | Temi trails off, "I know I sometimes feel more involved or less, and that's okay. If people are actively ignoring what's going on there and just keeping ticks going, that could be problematic. Not sure if it would actually be something we'd want to policy prevent..."
11:48:29p |
11:48:59p |
11:48:59p | Empena says, "If someone ask a you questions and you ignore them and don't make clear the ignoring them is an IC choice, it does make it feel like people are botting."
11:48:59p |
11:49:00p | say well, if they are avoiding something important that could fall into rp avoidance, but if they simply don't want to small talk, eh
11:49:00p |
11:49:00p | Bofaha states, "Well, if they are avoiding something important that could fall into rp avoidance, but if they simply don't want to small talk, eh"
11:49:00p |
11:50:03p |
11:50:03p | Empena muses, "Can we touch back on the metrics thing a moment?"
11:50:03p |
11:50:06p | Temi nods at Empena.
11:50:06p |
11:50:08p |
11:50:08p | Temi wonders, "Okay?"
11:50:08p |
11:50:10p | Taunya nods at Empena.
11:50:10p |
11:52:06p | Moxie nods.
11:52:06p |
11:53:27p |
11:53:27p | Empena queries, "Do you want me to repeat? Mostly that... at a time when four current GLs are RLed starting a big plot that seems to be encouraging murders seems ... a bit rough for those who are active to deal with it. I'd also query while Class Relations are low, Piety is not. So ... how do we currently balance the two?"
11:53:27p |
11:54:25p | sayto Empena smite the rebelion with pious anger and holy vengeance! And lack of GLs doesn't really stop people from acting - just think of it icly as sloppy leadership
11:54:25p | Bofaha finishes abruptly to Empena, "Smite the rebelion with pious anger and holy vengeance! And lack of GLs doesn't really stop people from acting - just think of it icly as sloppy leadership"
11:54:25p |
11:54:39p |
11:54:39p | Taunya states, "The current cycle nds in about 5 hours, whole situation might change soon"
11:54:39p |
11:54:52p |
11:54:52p | Temi states, "Well, we don't want to stop things when people are gone. In fact, people are more likely to get back involved if there's stuff to get involved with."
11:54:52p |
11:55:10p |
11:55:10p | Moxie trails off, "Maybe Piety needs to be low too to match it out..."
11:55:10p |
11:55:41p |
11:55:41p | Temi claims, "Obviously, we don't want to hold RL stuff against people in charge, but I'm happy assuming they are doing some stuff in the background - especially if they support that by their influence on metrics in what time they can pop in."
11:55:41p |
11:56:09p | say i mean, if there were 0 reeves, but people get mugged, murdered, ICly people would simply take matters into their own hands. It's all new rp avenue
11:56:09p |
11:56:09p | Bofaha claims, "I mean, if there were 0 reeves, but people get mugged, murdered, ICly people would simply take matters into their own hands. It's all new rp avenue"
11:56:09p |
11:56:26p | emote is a rp-half-full kinda person
11:56:26p |
11:56:26p | Bofaha is a rp-half-full kinda person
11:56:26p |
11:56:26p | Azarial asks, "I guess I dont; see why piety and class relations have to be related?"
11:56:26p |
11:56:33p |
11:56:33p | Temi states, "I think they are separate metrics though. And maybe the fact piety is high could be leveraged."
11:56:33p |
11:56:41p | nod Temi
11:56:42p | Bofaha nods at Temi.
11:56:42p |
11:56:50p | say it absolutely could, was used that way before iirc
11:56:50p |
11:56:50p | Bofaha claims, "It absolutely could, was used that way before iirc"
11:56:50p |
11:56:59p |
11:56:59p | Temi states, "Speak out and tell people that the Lord of the Springs demands them to stay in their places, and maybe that'll help simmer things down."
11:56:59p |
11:57:22p |
11:57:22p | Empena says, "Except that would be against theme, as even if there are no PCs in a clan, vNPC exist."
11:57:22p |
11:57:41p |
11:57:41p | Temi states, "Anything piety-based done to help counter it is more likely to have effects with piety being high."
11:57:41p |
11:57:49p |
11:57:49p | Temi states, "But with class relations being super low - people -are- upset."
11:57:49p |
11:58:44p |
11:58:44p | Empena states, "Hmm, okay."
11:58:44p |
11:58:53p | sayto Empena population getting pissed of on guild inefficency seems very much in theme to me. And we just recently had very low lawfulness. That doesn't only mean that thieves are on the rise, but that also population could get angry at reeves and thieves, and retaliate on both
11:58:54p | Bofaha states to Empena, "Population getting pissed of on guild inefficency seems very much in theme to me. And we just recently had very low lawfulness. That doesn't only mean that thieves are on the rise, but that also population could get angry at reeves and thieves, and retaliate on both"
11:58:54p |
11:59:19p |
11:59:19p | Empena, could you employ more VNPCs to enforce your piety-rule? [Moxie]
12:00:06a |
12:00:06a | Temi claims, "I think the main place we want to take into GL absences that they've let us know about is in our reaction to what they are doing or not doing, but I don't think we want everything to stand still"
12:00:06a |
12:01:19a |
12:01:19a | Empena states, "To my knowledge all our vNPCs, at least Knights get loaded at the Keep, not about the city , certainly having them more visible might help."
12:01:19a |
12:01:37a |
12:01:37a | Azarial says, "Vnpcs are technically not loaded."
12:01:37a |
12:01:51a | sayto Empena that I think also was done before, through plots + rpa to raise the knights presence in town
12:01:51a | Bofaha says to Empena, "That I think also was done before, through plots + rpa to raise the knights presence in town"
12:01:51a |
12:02:27a |
12:02:27a | Moxie says, "Oh, yes, VNPCs, not NPCs"
12:02:27a |
12:03:10a |
12:03:10a | Jakob claims, "Someone refused to serve me, which was cool"
12:03:10a |
12:03:23a |
12:03:23a | Jakob claims, "Metrics having real impact"
12:03:23a |
12:03:28a | Temi nods.
12:03:28a |
12:03:48a |
12:03:48a | Jakob , will be burning down The Bear and The Boar
12:03:48a |
12:03:54a |
12:03:54a | Jakob says, "Heh"
12:03:54a |
12:04:12a | Moxie nods.
12:04:12a |
12:04:53a |
12:04:53a | Temi finishes abruptly, "I don't actually know if there's anything for knights stuff - I'm sure we've got some high piety stuff for you, but I don't recall the details"
12:04:53a |
12:05:15a |
12:05:15a | Moxie wonders, "Are there boons other than extra silver when a metric is up?"
12:05:15a |
12:05:19a |
12:05:19a | Azarial says, "Knights spawn and try to arrest at high piety when people do heretical code things"
12:05:19a |
12:05:34a | say and the stock in order stores is tied to them afaik
12:05:35a |
12:05:35a | Bofaha claims, "And the stock in order stores is tied to them afaik"
12:05:35a |
12:05:43a | Temi nods at Moxie.
12:05:43a |
12:05:49a |
12:05:49a | Azarial says, "I think the odt alerts get more info and happen sooner"
12:05:49a |
12:05:58a | say so plenty of fun!
12:05:58a |
12:05:58a | Bofaha pontificates, "So plenty of fun!"
12:05:58a |
12:06:06a | sayto Azarial could all that be compiled and put for public eye?
12:06:06a | Bofaha asks of Azarial, "Could all that be compiled and put for public eye?"
12:06:06a |
12:06:32a | say Don't think it would unveil any secrets to have the metrics transparent, and how they affect things
12:06:32a |
12:06:32a | Bofaha says, "Don't think it would unveil any secrets to have the metrics transparent, and how they affect things"
12:06:32a |
12:06:34a |
12:06:34a | Azarial states, "Iunno. I only have a partial spec anymore. I use a dessctructive spec handling to track progress"
12:06:34a |
12:06:42a |
12:06:42a | Jakob says, "I'm all for VNPCs doing my iob"
12:06:42a |
12:06:50a |
12:06:50a | Temi claims, "Help metric definition does have information"
12:06:50a |
12:06:56a |
12:06:56a | Azarial claims, "Vnpcs merely alert--they don;t exist"
12:06:56a |
12:07:16a |
12:07:16a | Jakob asks, "Oh. Didn't Reeve mobs used to spawn? "
12:07:16a |
12:07:23a |
12:07:23a | Azarial says, "Those are not vnpcs"
12:07:23a |
12:07:26a |
12:07:26a | Temi says, "The v in vnpcs is virtual."
12:07:26a |
12:07:27a |
12:07:27a | Jakob questions, "Or do we call those actual NPCs? "
12:07:27a |
12:07:28a | say those are npcs
12:07:28a |
12:07:28a | Bofaha says, "Those are npcs"
12:07:28a |
12:07:41a |
12:07:41a | Jakob claims, "I'm dumb >.<"
12:07:41a |
12:07:46a | emote pats Jakob gently
12:07:46a |
12:07:46a | Bofaha pats Jakob gently
12:07:46a |
12:07:48a |
12:07:48a | Azarial says, "If it is visible in the room, killable, or wanders off, that;s a plain npc"
12:07:48a |
12:08:03a |
12:08:03a | Temi wonders, "Okay, Moxie, did your topic get brought up already?"
12:08:03a |
12:10:17a |
12:10:17a | Taunya queries, "Curious after reading through help metric definitions- what does morale do codedly, besides affect assets?"
12:10:17a |
12:10:24a |
12:10:24a | Moxie claims, "Yes, that was my bulk complaining"
12:10:24a |
12:10:33a |
12:10:33a | Moxie winks with extra cheese.
12:10:33a |
12:11:02a |
12:11:02a | Azarial says, "Affects pooling to rank points rate"
12:11:02a |
12:11:13a |
12:11:13a | Taunya states, "Ooh"
12:11:13a |
12:11:16a |
12:11:16a | Jakob says, "Ooh, that's brutal"
12:11:16a |
12:11:44a |
12:11:44a | Temi claims, "I don't think there's any metric that you would want to be terrible."
12:11:44a |
12:11:46a | Temi grins.
12:11:46a |
12:11:53a |
12:11:53a | Temi claims, "Everyone will have their own favorites they want to be high."
12:11:53a |
12:11:57a |
12:11:57a | Jakob coughs
12:11:57a |
12:12:05a | sayto Temi depends, i personaly do enjoy the ongoing chaos and disorder
12:12:05a | Bofaha claims to Temi, "Depends, i personaly do enjoy the ongoing chaos and disorder"
12:12:05a |
12:12:20a |
12:12:20a | Azarial states, "Though if you have iclass assets, you are making bank."
12:12:20a |
12:12:23a | Temi grins.
12:12:23a |
12:12:23a |
12:12:23a | Jakob says, "Lawfulness being low tends to just be amusing"
12:12:23a |
12:12:41a |
12:12:41a | Taunya claims, "Yeah, I'm kind of enjoying the terrible class relations, though I still think some kinks should be worked out"
12:12:41a |
12:13:03a |
12:13:03a | Empena claims, "But nor everyone does, some people have told me what is happening is making them feel uncomfortable playing certain chars."
12:13:03a |
12:13:06a | sayto Taunya probably when kinky is back from vacation
12:13:06a | Bofaha states to Taunya, "Probably when kinky is back from vacation"
12:13:06a |
12:13:10a |
12:13:10a | Moxie states, "I like being able to turn up places with my freeman guard and serve coffee, but my guard is hating it. Think Mox will get lynched soon."
12:13:10a |
12:13:30a |
12:13:30a | Moxie says, "I agree, it's definitely uncomfortable."
12:13:30a |
12:13:32a |
12:13:32a | Temi exclaims, "Well, things should change tonight... depending on people's preferences, maybe for the better there!"
12:13:32a |
12:13:42a | sayto Empena well, the cure is to pay care to the metrics in the future, not neglect it for years
12:13:42a | Bofaha claims to Empena, "Well, the cure is to pay care to the metrics in the future, not neglect it for years"
12:13:42a |
12:13:49a |
12:13:49a | Jakob muses, "Is there any way we can get more ways to spend silver? "
12:13:49a |
12:13:50a |
12:13:50a | Moxie claims, "Sometimes you just want to join the game and play a nice scene drinking tea. For a lot of people this is our social interaction."
12:13:50a |
12:13:52a | say I mean, it didn't get there overnight
12:13:53a |
12:13:53a | Bofaha states, "I mean, it didn't get there overnight"
12:13:53a |
12:13:55a |
12:13:55a | Azarial says, "In essence, try not to let any metric tank."
12:13:55a |
12:13:56a |
12:13:56a | Jakob questions, "Maybe to affect metrics or some such? "
12:13:56a |
12:14:11a |
12:14:11a | Moxie asks, "Hey Jakob... wanna buy furniture?"
12:14:11a |
12:14:13a | Taunya claims to Jakob, "You can purchase IP with silver"
12:14:13a |
12:14:16a |
12:14:16a | Azarial says, "Silver to ip"
12:14:16a |
12:14:18a |
12:14:18a | Temi states, "You can - yeah, that."
12:14:18a |
12:14:27a |
12:14:27a | Moxie says, "Or furniture to IP."
12:14:27a |
12:14:29a |
12:14:29a | Jakob states, "That's a once a month thing"
12:14:29a |
12:14:36a |
12:14:36a | Temi claims, "Two weeks."
12:14:36a |
12:14:36a | say and remember that you get IP from rumors too
12:14:36a |
12:14:36a | Moxie claims, "I mean silver to furniture."
12:14:36a |
12:14:36a | Bofaha states, "And remember that you get IP from rumors too"
12:14:36a |
12:14:38a |
12:14:38a | Taunya queries, "Once a week, I thought?"
12:14:38a |
12:14:42a | sayto Jakob you could run plots too
12:14:42a | Bofaha says to Jakob, "You could run plots too"
12:14:42a |
12:14:46a | say that try to fix it, somehow
12:14:47a |
12:14:47a | Bofaha states, "That try to fix it, somehow"
12:14:47a |
12:14:52a | say go wild!
12:14:52a |
12:14:52a | Bofaha declares, "Go wild!"
12:14:52a |
12:15:00a |
12:15:00a | Jakob states, "I just want something absurdly expensive to buy"
12:15:00a |
12:15:05a |
12:15:05a | Jakob says, "Or spend silver on"
12:15:05a |
12:15:13a |
12:15:13a | Azarial says, "As assets normalize, we cna see where the silver sinks are and adjust them accordingly to make sure we have a place to spend it."
12:15:13a |
12:15:13a | sayto Jakob hit me up icly and say that
12:15:14a | Bofaha states to Jakob, "Hit me up icly and say that"
12:15:14a |
12:15:25a | Taunya nods at Bofaha.
12:15:25a |
12:15:26a | Moxie states to Jakob, "I have really expensive furniture you can buy"
12:15:26a |
12:15:28a | Temi nods.
12:15:28a |
12:15:31a |
12:15:31a | Jakob queries, "Like 10k silver to change a metric up or down or something? "
12:15:31a |
12:15:46a |
12:15:46a | Temi says, "Not enough things to spend money on hasn't been something we've heard as a general complaint."
12:15:46a |
12:15:54a | Jakob begins to count their money.
12:15:54a |
12:16:00a | say if someone has that problem, well, max out combat :P
12:16:00a |
12:16:00a | Bofaha states, "If someone has that problem, well, max out combat :P"
12:16:00a |
12:16:02a |
12:16:02a | Taunya claims, "I've heard it once before."
12:16:02a |
12:16:03a |
12:16:03a | Temi states, "You -could- do a plot that involves spending money to affect metrics"
12:16:03a |
12:16:17a | say at least now, it won't be a problem like that anymore
12:16:17a |
12:16:17a | Bofaha says, "At least now, it won't be a problem like that anymore"
12:16:17a |
12:16:21a |
12:16:21a | Moxie states, "Gimme ten k silver and I'll personally go and build you a big, big wall around southside. And make them pay for it."
12:16:21a |
12:16:24a | say before when you had endless silver, well
12:16:24a |
12:16:24a | Bofaha claims, "Before when you had endless silver, well"
12:16:24a |
12:16:30a |
12:16:30a | Jakob states, "My character has nothing left to spend xp or money on really, and it sort of sucks"
12:16:30a |
12:16:37a | Temi nods at Jakob.
12:16:37a |
12:16:38a |
12:16:38a | Jakob says, "Plot is a good idea thpugh"
12:16:38a |
12:16:39a | sayto Jakob retirement time!
12:16:39a | Bofaha exclaims to Jakob, "Retirement time!"
12:16:39a |
12:17:01a |
12:17:01a | Temi says, "At some point, characters don't have a lot more development to do, and that can be a frustrating state dpending on your playstyle."
12:17:01a |
12:17:18a | say then you can always start a new character if building is what you enjoy
12:17:18a |
12:17:18a | Bofaha states, "Then you can always start a new character if building is what you enjoy"
12:17:18a |
12:17:29a | emote does that
12:17:29a |
12:17:29a | Bofaha does that
12:17:29a |
12:17:39a |
12:17:39a | Taunya states, "Become a patron, or dump a bunch to crash the economy, o"
12:17:39a |
12:17:59a |
12:17:59a | Temi queries, "But! We're over our standard time. And we thought we'd surely not run over! Does anyone have any last things?"
12:17:59a |
12:18:08a |
12:18:08a | Taunya declaims, "Nothing here!"
12:18:08a |
12:18:13a | sayto Temi love thy staff!
12:18:13a | Bofaha declaims to Temi, "Love thy staff!"
12:18:13a |
12:18:16a |
12:18:16a | Jakob claims, "I should stick to my plan to put up an absurdly expensive bounty"
12:18:16a |
12:18:21a | Taunya scans the area, looking for somewhere to hide.
12:18:21a |
12:18:25a |
12:18:25a | Moxie claims, "Just want to say thanks to Az for being so on the ball with bugs this week and every week before."
12:18:25a |
12:18:26a | Taunya edges towards her chosen hiding spot.
12:18:26a |
12:18:31a | Taunya reaches her position.
12:18:31a |
12:18:36a | Taunya conceals herself as best as possible.
12:18:36a |
12:18:40a |
12:18:40a | Temi declaims, "Okay, thanks all! Sending you back!"
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