Log of OOC Meeting - 2017-07-15

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Log of OOC Meeting - 2017-07-15

Postby Taunya » Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:13 pm


Temi says, "
Alright then, agenda for today. 1) Staff updates, 2) Player Heartbeat, 3) Player topics. Before we get going do we have any player topics? I have one now."

Vicannia says, "
I have one"

Temi asks, "
Anyone else? You can always let me know if something else occurs to you throughout the course of the chat"
Temi nods at Vicannia.


Temi declares, "
Ahh, here's our Kin!"
Kinaed steps out of your shadow. [OOC]

Temi waves to Kinaed.


Temi says, "
We were just about to start on staff topics."

Percival says, "
Nice entry"
Temi gives a dart with a barrel-shaped shaft and trailing, red ribbons to Kinaed.

Kinaed says OOCly, "Please continue with me as sn observer."


Bofaha waves to the unicorn-shaped-entity



Flaviano and smile at Kinaed


Temi nods at Kinaed.

Kinaed has gone AFK.


Temi says, "
Okay, starting with staff updates then. I'll start, since I'm already talking."

Temi claims, "
I've been working on a list of resource objects for adding to assets."

Temi claims, "
We posted up on the general board with the update from our staff meeting, but how we're going to handle objects, is that you'll be able to pick from the whole list of resources and attach that to your specific asset, with how it RP relates to that item."

Temi claims, "
Then you'll be able to purchase that item, possibly for a significant discount."
[OOC] YoMami: "Can I get a trans to the chat please?"

Bofaha says to Temi, "Oooh, sexy"
Temi has transferred Margaux. [OOC]

Temi gives a dart with a barrel-shaped shaft and trailing, red ribbons to Margaux.


Percival questions, "
I don't understand how that works. What are objects?"



Temi states, "
There will be balancing to ensure everyone doesn't get the same things, limits on the number of resources you can add to your assets."

Margaux waves.


Bofaha states to Percival, "Iron, leathers, milk etc I guess"
Temi nods.


Vicannia muses, "
What if an asset doesn't exactly make sense to have an item attached, for example bribe money? Also will tier 2 and 3 assets have a different level of item that can be attached as well?"

Temi states, "
Objects are just 'things'."

Percival states, "
Aha. Very exciting."
Bofaha exclaims to Vicannia, "Bribery in gems!"

Temi says, "
Only level 2 and level 3 will be eligible, and there will be a limit to the number you can add based on level."

Temi claims, "
And you don't -have- to add resource objects if nothing makes sense to you."

Percival trails off, "
Ah... damnable fatcats..."

Temi says, "
Niamh's been working on polishing out the spec for how the whole resource thing will work, based on those decisions."

Temi says, "
But I've got the object list now, I think."

Temi says, "
I've also been working on creating the assets for roster positions, so hopefully should be able to have that element available soonish."

Temi queries, "
Az, can you give us your update?"

Bofaha pontificates, "
Awesomes, thanks temi!"

Percival says, "
Yes, thanks Temi :)"

Azarial claims, "
Mostly bugs, bugs, and crash bugs."

Percival claims, "
You're welcome Az ;)"

Vicannia muses, "
Have you considered an exterminator?"

Percival muses, "
What do you think Az does?"

Temi says, "
We did move over to our new server and are 64 bit now, so there may be a few oddities.. please report anything odd, as usual"

Temi trails off, "
I don't see anything too exciting in the change boards..."
Temi ponders.

Temi asks of Azarial, "Anything else to add?"

Azarial says, "
Not really."
Temi nods.

Azarial states, "
Nothing comes to mind"
Temi muses to Kinaed, "Kin, are you awake enough for an update?"

Temi pontificates, "
Sounds like probably not. We'll let her interject if that becomes possible!"

Temi muses, "
So, player heartbeat. How's RP this week, folks?"

Esmerelde exclaims, "
Good so far! Hope to have some more though!"

Percival says, "
Pretty good! I had a great time teaching at the university and I had a lot of people turn up. That was a really nice RP experience"
Alessandro is idle.


Bofaha states, "
Fun, for most part. Even hospital rp wasn't the worst time ever"

Temi says, "
That's always good to hear"

Flaviano frowns, "
I got overwhelmed with everything, so I hid for a week. I'm back until my next trip this Thursday for another week."

Temi nods at Flaviano.


Percival states, "
Had and heard about some pretty weird scenes this week that were constantly being interrupted by wild animal attacks"
Bofaha queries to Temi, "How was your rp week?"

Temi muses, "
Anything we can do to help with the overwhelming?"
Kinaed has lost link.
Kinaed has reconnected.

Kinaed has returned from AFK.

Temi claims to Bofaha, "Well, I RPed with the objects I was considering.. and they just looked at me weird."

Vicannia trails off, "
Rp has been interesting. On an alt of mine the first scene I ever had with them was a drug deal..."

Vicannia claims, "
And that was in the last week"
Bofaha claims to Temi, "As long as they don't talk back you are fine"



Flaviano smiles at Vicannia, "
How exciting!"

Temi muses to Bofaha, "Oh... are you sure?"
Temi exclaims to Vicannia, "Sounds like a good time!"

Bofaha turns into a wooden box and replies to Temi with a clap of his wooden top "
Quite sure!"


Azarial states, "
The only good mimic is a dead mimic."

Flaviano starts quickly stuffing dirty clothes into the wooden box, holding down the lid.



Temi wonders, "
Anything that's been bothering anyone or that staff ought to be aware of?"

Kinaed claims, "
Just a quick update from me - last week I handled a small amount of poli y and a few player requests. I am finally home from my father in law's as of last night, but I will shortly be in the US for three weeks on vacation. Temi is my 2IC for that period even though I will be around. "

Percival pontificates, "
Welcome back Kin!"

Vicannia states, "
What is a 2IC"

Temi states, "
I assume second in command."

Kinaed claims, "
Sorry to jump in. Back to Player Heartbeat. :)"
Bofaha pontificates to Kinaed, "Have fun vacations!"
Kinaed nods at Temi.


Percival claims, "
There's some things bothering me Temi, but I've put them in a request board"
Primrose is idle.

Temi claims to Kinaed, "That was according to plans! We thought you'd just interject when you could."

Vicannia trails off, "
Ah... that would make sense"
Temi nods at Percival.


Kinaed declaims, "
Cool!"
Primrose is no longer idle.

Primrose has returned from AFK.


Temi states, "
I'll try to make sure we have a staff sync on those after this then"
Temi nods at Percival.


Flaviano frown again, "
I have completely failed at assets all together... But have also just sent a request for it."

Temi nods at Flaviano.


Temi muses, "
We'll take a look at that too. Was there a specific problem with the assets, or just overwhelming to comprehend the concept?"

Flaviano says, "
The entire concept and getting overwhelmed with deadlines."
Bofaha trails off to Flaviano, "It's much simpler than it sounds, but sure looks scary..."
Temi nods at Flaviano.


Percival wonders, "
A major problem with the assets thing is ? type"

Percival says, "
Other than that it's solid. Oh, and the template should be at the top of the polca"

Percival queries, "
Should I submit that as a typo Temi?"

Flaviano states, "
I will certainly take ownership of how overwhelmed I was of the whole thing, and was trying to get up exp and money to get them."
Temi states to Percival, "Nah, I'll note it down for us to look at though"
Temi nods at Flaviano.


Temi states, "
We'll get you sorted out. Will get back to you on that note when we figure what we'll do"
Temi nods at Flaviano.


Flaviano smiles and nods. "
Thanks!


Temi queries, "
Anything else bugging anyone?"

Bofaha deadpans "
bees"


Vicannia says, "
Nothing that staff can help with, just player end"
Temi nods.


Temi says, "
Alright then, transitioning into player topics."

Flaviano trails off, "
I ran into a raven during rp... sorta. I kinda wanna do that again..."

Temi queries, "
Percival, you had a couple of things to bring up?"
Temi grins at Flaviano.


Percival wonders, "
A raven?"
Vincenzo has lost link.


Bofaha pontificates, "
Cook it!"

Percival wonders, "
Okay, here's my topic. Simple one. Sometimes I'm not aware of whether I'm holding an item - especially if I'm cloaked and I can't LOOK SELF. Is there a REMOVE BOTH or REMOVE HELD or REMOVE LEFT/RIGHT command which doesn't require me to know what the item is?"

Bofaha wonders, "
Can't you just do eq?"

Percival says, "
Not when cloaked."

Temi claims, "
Eq should work, I'd expect."
Bofaha nods at Temi.

Percival gets a lengthy, black button-down peacoat, trimmed at the waist from a medium courier box.



Temi claims, "
If not, that may be a bug."
Percival wears a lengthy, black button-down peacoat, trimmed at the waist about his body.

Percival pulls closed his cloak, hiding his garments.


Percival declares, "
Well I'll be damned! Thanks!"

Percival asks, "
Second and last topic: What is the expected turnaround on pboards and requests at the moment, and does each message get acknowledged even if the request or pboard isn't doable?"

Bofaha states, "
Just keep in mind that manipulating items uder cloak will echo them to the room"

Percival says, "
Got it"

Temi claims, "
We should respond to everything, and probably within a few days"

Percival says, "
Just bored of whipping my weapons around is all."

Percival claims, "
Okay, thanks Temi :)"

Kinaed states, "
If no response in three days, bump it."

Temi states, "
But we should probaby be better about responding when we're waiting for input from someone"
Kinaed nods at Temi.


Temi claims, "
I think the posts you have up we wanted some Kin thoughts on"
Percival nods.


Bofaha claims, "
Simple requests are handled blazingly fast from my experience, hip hip hooray for that"

Percival declares, "
Yeah, I think I've been spoiled! haha"

Vicannia says, "
Kin thoughts, the most valuable kind of thoughts"
Temi grins.


Temi questions, "
Was there anything specific you wanted to discuss here on it, or just checking in on getting responses?"

Kinaed states, "
I'll encourage staff to edit with 'Waiting on Kinaed'"

Percival states, "
Just checking, it's not really a public conversation to have."
Bofaha states to Percival, "We don't mind knowing"
Margaux claims to Percival, "Yes, you should get the rash checked out."

Temi declares, "
That's fine!"
Kinaed wonders to Temi, "May I take a moment to write up my anon topic?"
Temi nods at Kinaed.


Bofaha wonders, "
I think Vicannia was queued up?"
Temi asks of Percival, "That covers you then, right?"
Temi nods at Bofaha.

Temi has transferred Esen. [OOC]

Temi gives a dart with a barrel-shaped shaft and trailing, red ribbons to Esen.


Percival says, "
Guys... shut up about my rash."
Bofaha waves to Esen.


Percival trails off, "
Yes, that covers my Madison visits..."

Kinaed claims, "
A player contacted me about the new familiar spell. Seems like someone is running rampant with it. Staff are considering adding limitations."

Flaviano quietly slides a soothing cream to Percival and continues to pay attention.



Kinaed asks, "
Has anyone observed it being a problem?"

Vicannia trails off, "
Seems no more rampant than the shadowmeld spell... not sure what all familiar can do though..."

Margaux claims, "
I've not even seen it in action."
Bofaha questions to Kinaed, "That would be the zoo that happens at crossroads?"

Temi says, "
Probably."
Temi nods at Bofaha.


Vicannia queries, "
Can it attack people?"
Kinaed states to Vicannia, "Very similar."
Percival nods.


Percival says, "
Yeah, they attack people. Tried to do it in my class the other day"

Kinaed claims, "
I believe it can attack."

Bofaha declares, "
Sure can!"

Bofaha shows a scar



Percival exclaims, "
He turned me into a newt!"
Bofaha trails off to Kinaed, "I think that being able to control a bear is... too much"

Vicannia says, "
Oh... well if it can attack then it should definitely have limitations. Shadowmeld, while frequent, can never attack."

Kinaed states, "
Shadows dissipate in one hit. Animals less so."
Kinaed nods.


Percival says, "
Yeah. Seems like it should come at a high cost."

Kinaed states, "
Staff will resolve."

Vicannia says, "
Exactly. Plus it does seem weird to be able to control large animals... when I think familiar, I think small animals like cats, chipmunks... maybe a wolf or dog if very high-tier"
Bofaha claims to Vicannia, "I would say anything combat-able should require expensive components and/or rpa"

Bofaha states, "
Otherwise you cause wounds for free and with 0 risk"

Margaux asks, "
Make it restricted to certain levels of mob?"

Percival claims, "
Yes, I agree."

Vicannia trails off, "
That does seem like an oversight..."

Kinaed questions, "
We'll look at that too. Any other suggestions?"

Bofaha exclaims, "
Besides that, I like the spell! One more way for mages to harass people"

Percival states, "
I wouldn't say restrict it to types of mob, only that maybe if the mage is damaged they take that damage or something."


Taunya claims, "
I don't mind it, but should be risky to take control of high level animals at least. good chance of failure and getting attacked."


Percival claims, "
Yeah, I like the idea that there is suitable roleplay between the mages and mundanes"

Vicannia muses, "
I do have to ask, what was staff's intention when adding the spell? I'm not meaning this sarcastically but just curious what the envisioned use was when even writing the spell up?"



Temi says, "
We certainly liked the idea of animal spies."
Alessandro has left the game.


Kinaed claims, "
A cool interaction spell for Earth mages."
Kinaed nods at Temi.

Percival states to Vicannia, "Probably to increase roleplay interaction and the spies thing. I quite like that."

Vicannia nods to Temi "
Spies is what I imagine when I think familiar..."


Margaux queries, "
Maybe animals should stick to their natural environment? ie, forest creatures stay in the forest, urban creatures in the city? Should at least stop big beasts in the city?"

Percival wonders, "
Maybe just limit it so the animal can't initiate combat?"

Percival states, "
But it can respond to combat once in combat"
Temi nods.

Bofaha states to Percival, "That would lead to some very weird rp"

Temi says, "
Some good ideas."

Kinaed states, "
Unlikely to go that route."
Percival nods at Bofaha.


Kinaed claims, "
But we have a list of good ideas now."

Vicannia trails off, "
Not being able to initiate combat does seem like a smart idea... though then we run into the issue of mages harrassing people in rp, refusing to go away until someone eventually has to attack to get some peace"

Bofaha says, "
But yea, if mages want to hurt people, take some risks with it."

Kinaed claims, "
And a consensus that it should change."

Vicannia trails off, "
And trolling spells like that are... just annoying"
Temi nods.


Percival trails off, "
Yeah..."

Percival states, "
Maybe it just needs to be a policy thing"

Temi claims, "
We'll definitely discuss that."

Temi muses, "
Should we move on to Vicannia now?"
Kinaed nods at Temi.


Percival says, "
Like the thing Kin said about flying mages dropping fire bombs. It's possible, it just shouldn't happen thematically"

Percival claims, "
Sorry Vic."
Temi nods at Vicannia.


Vicannia states, "
No worries percival."

Clears throat "
What I want to bring up is regarding rping with an 'Anonymous' person. I'd like to propose the anonymous person be able to send tells to folks without revealing their identity. I'd see it working like 'Anonymous tells you ????' and then you'd have the option to reply back using the reply command." Vicannia shrugs "Just a small idea." [Vicannia]


Bofaha scratches his neck "
I think whoinvis is used too much as it is..."


Kinaed questions, "
How do staff trace it if an anonymous person is breaking policy?"

Margaux says, "
Seems to be a lot of whoinvis lately"
Margaux nods at Bofaha.


Vicannia questions, "
This way ooc communication doesn't always have to be via ooc... and I wasn't referring to whoinvis, but literally cloaked and concealed. and not sure what you mean kinaed? I imagine anonymous tells should have a log of somekind"

Percival states, "
It could be logged like most anonymous messages. Like dreams. I have to agree about a lot of whois recently since the mage perma-whois change."

Kinaed says, "
I just don't like the idea of someone getting ano ymous private messages. "

Bofaha claims, "
I agree, i really don't wan anon tells"

Temi asks, "
Is there a use case that osay just doesn't work for?"

Percival claims, "
I'm afraid I have to agree. It's cool but... it's very open to abuse."

Percival asks, "
Perhaps if someone has left the room?"

Vicannia shrugs "
Osay can clutter a scene quite a bit."


Percival says, "
And that too"
Bofaha states to Percival, "Pboard"
Percival asks of Bofaha, "Ah, anon pboard works now, right?"

Vicannia states, "
Pboard doesn't work if the masked and cloaked individual's goal is to hide their identity"
Bofaha nods at Percival.


Kinaed claims, "
Can you anon Board to targets, not 'All'? I think yes."
Temi nods at Kinaed.


Percival trails off, "
To vicannia anon board I suppose. It's not real-time but..."

Vicannia claims, "
Can anonymous board notes actually target a specific person? I haven't actually used it."

Temi says, "
You can to at least guilds and mages, I think to people"

Azarial claims, "
Yes, anon board should be working properly. that took sonme work this morning"
Percival starts writing a note. (This is an OOC action)


Azarial claims, "
It is forbidden from 'all'"
Percival finishes his note.


Percival wonders, "
Did that work Vic?"

Bofaha claims, "
And if osay clutters the scnee, well, it's probably should but cut down, not just moved to tells"

Bofaha says, "
At least my 2 cents"

Kinaed says, "
I'd think anon all would be okay, just not requiring All."

Vicannia states, "
Ah. Well while that is a fair workaround just would prefer a way to keep osay clutter to a minimal. and yes it worked"
Primrose is idle.

Primrose is no longer idle.
Primrose has returned from AFK.


Vicannia claims, "
But it was just an idea"
Kinaed nods at Vicannia.
Temi nods.

Percival nods.


Temi muses, "
Did you have anything else you wanted to bring up?"

Percival claims, "
Learning is still overclocked"

Kinaed claims, "
Nothing wrong with raising ideas of any sort."

Percival questions, "
But a lot of people have bugboarded it already. Are we still allowed to be learning?"
Bofaha claims to Percival, "No wonder so many people attend lessons"
Percival laughs.

Kinaed claims to Percival, "Thanks flr the head's up."

Percival states, "
I figured it balances out from the past week where we couldn't learn at all"
Vincenzo is idle.


Temi says, "
There's definitely a bug board up, and we re-enabled it."

Percival queries, "
May I demonstrate?"

Temi claims, "
But up to Kin if it's abuse."



Kinaed states, "
Not abuse."

Percival states, "
Probably best not to. Alright, thanks Kin."
Temi nods.


Kinaed claims, "
Staff need to move on that as a prkority though."
Temi nods at Kinaed.


Percival mumbles, "
Everyone to the university, quicksmart..."


Flaviano starts signing up forall the classes.



Temi asks, "
Okay then, I've got a final topic from Margaux with a quick reminder?"

Percival claps enthusiastically.



Margaux says, "
Council meeting today, probably starting 30 mins or so after the chat concludes. All Council members (titled nobs, GLs) are welcome, those specifically invited, and any proxies (basically, happy for a representative from a guild to show if your GL isn't around.)"
Bofaha questions to Margaux, "Are random hillmen invited?"

Kinaed read that as Flaviano signing up for floral classes.



Margaux states, "
No. :)"

Percival declaims, "
We teach herbology too!"

Bofaha pouts



Flaviano grins widely, "
It's on the list!" He hold up a list to show Kinaed with great entusiasm.

Temi grins.


Margaux says, "
I'll make a crier go around to alert IC, in any case."

Temi pontificates, "
Thanks Marg!"

Temi muses, "
Did anyone have any other topics they've remembered before we wrap up?"

Percival claims, "
One last one"

Kinaed claims, "
Nothing here."
Temi nods at Percival.


Margaux states, "
On that note, I need to start prepping. :)"

Margaux waves.


Margaux begins to descend.


Vicannia nominates bofaha as their proxy


Margaux opens the lower pillow.
Margaux leaves down.


Bofaha states to Vicannia, "Awww"

Bofaha would be great at council meetings



Percival questions, "
It's a difficult subject, and one I'd still prefer to target IC, but... when does horse killing turn from viable rp to griefing?"
Bofaha claims to Percival, "When its done for OOC, not IC reasons"

Percival questions, "
But if we've nothing more to go on than an evil cackle, how can we know?"

Bofaha claims, "
There may or may not be more, but that is indeed IC part of it :)"

Vicannia questions, "
But you can easily come up with bs ic reasoning... and wait has the evil cackle actually been a response?"

Kinaed claims, "
Report it to staff for investigation."
Bofaha nods at Kinaed.


Temi claims, "
Our law guilds can definitely investigate with their free investigative QP"

Percival says, "
Alright, I'll leave it up to the law guilds."

Vicannia claims, "
Because if so that sounds like a mage who was spamming that fire wall spell, and their only response would be rpyelling a cackle"

Percival trails off, "
Mm..."

Bofaha won't go into ic details, but there seems to be a lot of rp going around the killing


Percival says, "
I'm reluctant to turn it into a policy issue. I'm sure it'll have an IC resolution."
Bofaha pontificates to Percival, "But when in doubt, always good to let staff know!"
Percival nods at Bofaha.


Kinaed says, "
And if you think it may be OOCly motivated, staff."

Percival claims, "
It's not my horses, just concerned that it might be making people frustrated."

Kinaed states, "
We can just do a sanity check."
Percival nods.


Bofaha states, "
Because staff doesn't spy on rp, so people need to bring it to their attention"
Temi nods in agreement with Bofaha.


Bofaha declares, "
Better safe than sorry!"
Kinaed nods at Bofaha.

Temi exclaims to Bofaha, "It's like you've heard this before!"
Percival laughs.

Bofaha queries to Temi, "Right?"
Bofaha states to Temi, "It's why I play here, not anywhere else"
Temi grins.


Bofaha says, "
For my rp needs"

Vicannia states, "
You mean addiction bofaha"

Temi asks, "
Anything else folks want to go into before we send folks back? With our whole minute left?"

Flaviano raises a hand. "
I just wanted to immensley thank staff for addressing the Tool Show command, allowing it to show all of the strings. I will be trying it out personally very soon." He gives a warm smile and a nod of his head.


Bofaha has nothing more beside snide remarks



Vicannia states, "
One thing"



Temi pulls back the return wand with a look to Vicannia.


Bofaha claims to Vicannia, "You made temi angry"

Vicannia says, "
Never look a RP Hook in the mouth. If somebody is trying to offer you a line of rp you may or may not have had previously, possibly take them up on it."
Temi nods in agreement with Vicannia.

Percival nods.


Bofaha nods "
Step out of comfort zone!"


Temi declares, "
Always excellent advice!"

Percival questions, "
Is that a horse reference?"

Vicannia states, "
Not intentionally"

Flaviano shakes his head at Percival. "
Nah, they're just happy to see You."


Temi says, "
You don't have to run in the direction they want you to, but running with plot hooks is always more fun than ignoring them."
Temi grins.


Vicannia declaims, "
And crime is fun!"
Bofaha claims to Vicannia, "Not when they string you at river square"

Vicannia asks, "
Pssh... if the story was worth it, then is it really that bad?"

Bofaha is suicidal, so don't ask him



Percival claims, "
Dat death xp"

Temi exclaims, "
Okay, sending you lot all back!"

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