Log of OOC Meeting 8/22/2015

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Sat Aug 22, 2015 6:06 pm

Kinaed muses, "Today's Agenda is:

- Staff Updates
- Player Heartbeat
- Player Topics

Is there anything anyone would like to add to the agenda to make certain we discuss it today?"

Kinaed waits a few moments for people to respond.

Misune whistles

Kinaed claims, "I have one from a tell earlier."


Kinaed claims, "Okay, if you come up with something, please send me a tell and I'll add it to the agenda to be discussed during the Player Topics time."

Emma nodnods.

Saja nods.

Erazmus nods

Sabari takes a big bite of cupcake, leaving a bit of whipped cream on her nose.

Kinaed states, "I'll kick off Staff Updates. Last week, I put in a few change requests. For example, typoing 'who <name>' will show if that person is online (when programmed), the score changes, an update to the ti-fact format, etc. I am still working on the roles spec as my primary big deal."

Kinaed says, "That's it for me."

Azarial states, "Help news."

Kinaed states to Azarial, "You're up."

Kinaed nods at Azarial.

help news
Helpfile for Aug2015

* Individuals with Auspex overhear Void Messengers sent to those in the room.
* In addition to score, pvent show displays your active pvent.
* Some Aquiel's Stalker echo bugs fixed.
* Joining a place now puts you in the right map location.
* Players with color off see (New) on the wholist to indicate cyans.
* Sneaking should no longer break hidden status.
* A bug where sneaking was revealed by halt messages is fixed.
* GLs whose social class doesn't match the role's expectation take an approval penalty.
* Remember list should always sort alphabetical A-Z.
* Autovote should only display once a day.
* New wounds are in; see help wound.
* Write/erase now first target boards or ledgers in the inventory, instead of the room.
* Targets of the Compulsion spell now have a chance to save against it.
* To prevent bugs, you can no longer remember NPCs.
* Most crafting recipes should now never fail once out of pooling range.
* Several end of combat bugs resolved.
* Skill reqs reduced/increased to 55 in chargen.
* Help racism added to help clarify racism in TI's theme.
* Herbalists can make smelling salts to wake the unconscious.
* Animals can receive unmarked burial in road-sector rooms.
* To prevent bad parsing, scan no longer shows actions.
* Sponsor list now displays the number of sponsors needed.
* One cannot cancel out of editing a gnote and accidentally delete it anymore.
* Subrank 1 restricts gnote access, regardless of rank.
* Repair only requires 36 ranks.
* Gift of Arien insta-heals small wounds AND restores current hp to max.
* Aura of Sanctuary spell reverted to classical a non-aggression spell.
* Mail sort orders mail in inventory (since implementation) by timestamp.
* Weekly remaining IP are now converted to silver, rate based on social class.

(Subject area: changes Last modified: Fri Aug 21 20:44:15 2015)


Azarial claims, "It's rather nice when someone else does the report for me."

Kinaed trails off to Azarial, "Well... okay, please type Help News to see Azarial's work this week :P"

Temi grins.

Emma says, "Eeesh. Very nice."

Kinaed wonders to Azarial, "You're too clever for your own good, you know that? :P"

Kinaed states to Temi, "You're up."

Azarial claims, "Oh no. takta ran the change board."

Temi declaims, "Okay!"

Kinaed asks of Emma, "Please put help news in the log so people can see it?"

Temi states, "So, I'm continuing to work on magecrafting and there are... dun dun... three recipes left to do."

Domenic says, "I would like to give my opinion but I'm still trying to figure out how I'm going to play out my character...also, I'm confused with how to <get> specific items."

Temi says, "I plan to finish them up this weekend and then I shall wash my hands of magecrafting and it's all you guys."

Takta declares to Domenic, "We can help you out after this!"

Misune declares, "Wooh! Go Temi!"

Temi exclaims, "So, anyone playing a mage with any interest in magecrafting, I encourage you to use it and let us know if there's any problems!"

Otois says, "Also anyone playing a mage, raise your hand :P"

Temi says, "The biggest change is lots more recipes, and you should be able to train all the way to 75 with spells from a single element."

Temi states, "And working on wrapping up the famine plot - a bit more to do with bandits which may be done after this week too, based on work the guilds are doing."

Temi claims, "And that's me this wek."

Kinaed smiles.

Kinaed exclaims to Temi, "Thanks!"

Kinaed states to Takta, "You're up."

Takta trails off, "Okay, well..."

Takta claims, "I've done bits and bobs on the Skyway, but most of my time has been occupied helping new players."

Kinaed nods at Takta.

Takta says, "I also ran about 50 posts off the changes board and fleshed out help news."

Sabari says, "and thank you for all the newbie help! <3"

Takta states, "I'm going to keep trying to find time to push the Skyway further, but classes have started again for me, so we'll have to see."

Kinaed smiles.

Takta pontificates to Sabari, "Hee, welcome!"

Takta claims, "That's about it."

Kinaed states to Sabari, "We're always excited to have new players to help."

Saja says, "Takta answer about a dozen questions for me last night, too, so it's not just noob"

Kinaed states to Takta, "Thank you. :)"

Kinaed nods at Saja.

Jules claims, "Skyway is looking awesome so far."

Emma says, "Definitely is."

Takta trails off, "Hehehehh... the exits are SUPPOSED to be hidden, but, y'know..."

Takta states, "I haven't been perfectly reliable about that."

Kinaed says, "Wow, is that all of the staff? We're missing Vistarch - mostly been helping new players and testing changes, Mika - mostly helping new players, and Xinoe - who has attacked the request and typos board with a vengeance that I admire. "

Kinaed asks, "Okay, to wrap up Staff Updates, does anyone have any questions?"

Domenic claims, "So many people @.@"

Kinaed states, "Okay, I'll take that as no questions at this time. :)"

Temi nods in agreement with Kinaed.

Kinaed questions, "Next up - Player Heartbeat. How's RP been in the last week, folks? Anything you'd like to see your friendly staff doing to improve the game?"

Kinaed has transferred Tomas. [OOC]

Domenic sits down and rests.

Bryce states, "Quiet, not many people want to come and visit bryce :("

Kinaed comforts Bryce.

Kinaed questions to Bryce, "Are you in jail?"

Temi gives a birthday cupcake topped with an aproned boy-shaped candle to Tomas.

Ofelia questions, "Actually, can you visit prisoners?"

Ofelia says, "Genuinely had no clue."

Zumini claims, "If you have a key"

Kinaed says to Ofelia, "Yes, just ask someone to escort you."

Bryce states, "Yeah, right now, but I was in the hospital, hardly anyone visited then."

Ofelia nods.

Tomas says, "Stupid guards don't like tomas, even though he has a key"

Kinaed comforts Bryce.

Bryce says to Tomas, "They are worried for your safety."

Zumini states, "Just have them executed or something"

Misune trails off, "Rp has been interesting to say the least this last week... Alot of progress made"

Kinaed states to Tomas, "I'm sure you can organize an escort. :P"

Kinaed says to Misune, "Good to hear. :)"

Margaux questions, "Perhaps non-covert guild guards could ignore the top tier on precedence?"

Kinaed states, "Anyone else want to share how their RP is going? Also, please visit Bryce, if you can guys."

Otois trails off, "RP was busy as hell with some very... weird events"

Tomas states to Margaux, "Oh, I like that"

Ofelia claims to Zumini, "I mean, the plebs love nothing more than to be threatened with bodily harm, right? I cosign on the threats. >.>"

Kinaed states to Margaux and Tomas, "I know you two do, and no. Even high ranking individuals still need to actually talk to people to get things done now and again. *tease*"

Saja states, "It's been extremely interesting for me on shasa"

Zumini claims to Ofelia, "Wrong person to suggest that to ;)"

Kinaed nods at Saja.

Erazmus glances back and forth. "I've only logged one or two hours of RP, so I doubt I have much to report..."

Ofelia grins.

Takta declaims to Erazmus, "Nice that you've already gotten started, though!"

Kinaed claims to Erazmus, "No worries; I hope you've enjoyed your RP so far."

Domenic questions, "Is there a command to directly visit a person?"

Margaux states, "My RP has been good, but not as much as I'd like. More personal relationship stuff than High Stewardy stuff this week."

Kinaed states to Domenic, "No, you'll have to approach the Reeves or an Orderite and ask to visit your friend."

Kinaed nods at Margaux.

Sabari pontificates, "It's been good! Mostly getting settled into the game and getting my bearing without making huge mistakes. The incident at a certain inn was pretty cray, so that was a great way to kind of get introduced to the magic element in the game so soon! :)"

Misune looks to Margaux "I see how it is... Misune's insulting the nobles isn't high stewardy enough."

Otois states, "Well, not nothing, just not much"

Margaux claims to Misune, "I have that in last week, mentally. :)"

Takta claims, "Jail channel's used."

Kinaed states to Otois, "It's still there; I think people just don't use it as much as they used to. If you're in jail and looking for RP, please feel free to ask there."

Tomas states, "I took the first part of the week off to visit with a f riend who came down for my surgery, but the surgery got pushed back so he visited anyway. so spent the last half catching up on those I haven't seen much of"

Misune claims, "Oh... well true.."

Takta says to Sabari, "Welcome to the jungle. ;)"

Margaux hugs Misune.

Zumini says, "... it helps when you lead with 'say' *cough*"

Otois claims, "Yea, I could then figure some way to even get my uninovled ass in there and do some rp"

Otois claims, "Just need to know that jailee wants to rp"

Kinaed questions, "Oh, the jail channel isn't pervasive. Should we open it to everyone?"

Kinaed states, "Only jailbirds, the Order and Reeves see it at the moment."

Takta states, "No, I think it works well as-is."

Margaux questions, "As long as you turn on thea bilility to turn it off?"

Zumini says, "Eh... I agree with Takta."

Misune looks to Kinaed "Please god no..."

Saja agrees with Takta.

Tomas claims, "I think it works fine as is yeah"

Otois states, "Interested people can contact the jailee to speak on jail"

Kinaed claims, "Okay, I'll let that idea drop for now."

Ofelia trails off, "Would there be a way to encourage non Order/Reeve people to interact with prisoners? It's a tough thing to justify asking of the law when you're not involved..."

Danae is idle.

Kinaed states to Ofelia, "I think anyone could make a case of visiting prisoners for charitable reasons."

Margaux wonders, "Perhaps there should be a visitation room however? Player goes to room, and runs a command that asks said prisoner if they'd like to receive a visitor?"

Danae is no longer idle.
Danae has returned from AFK.

Otois claims, "Could be part of induction for example, show new guy around the jail and htat rotten stinking criminal in there"

Bryce states, "As a repeat offender, I find Jail channel to work out fine, but there is some difficulty to get people in for visits sometimes.(not currently, my jailed toon has made few attempts to get people in)"

Misune trails off, "I think it would be just like regular jail... they don't exactly let you in unless you have some relation to the prisoner or you are offering a service such as priestly type stuff or medical"

Zumini states, "So, speaking from experirence, if you were to approach Zumini with a reasonable request He would walk you in. He would eavesdrop, but he would walk you in."

Kinaed says, "With the Law of Caring in place, it stands to reason that many people would emulate that behavior, if not out of genuine kindness, then out of socially attempting to appear like the nobility."

Kinaed nods at Zumini.

Sabari looks at a book in her hands.

Sabari looks at a book in her hands.

Misune trails off, "True kinaed... but you also have to look at it from the Jailor aspect... why does random joe schmoo want to meet with this person when they have never talked before..."

Ofelia claims, "Fair. I guess I was trying to make the leap from OOC - Hey! This person must be bored, to why in the world my character would go. "

Kinaed states to Misune, "Hence pointing out that Lithmore is a charitable society."

Emma states, "No way of really knowing if they've never talked to them before, I guess."

Kinaed nods at Emma.

Zumini states to Misune, "We confiscate all the heavy metal cakes at the door."

Misune is also incredibly paranoid so looks at it from a different perspective

Kinaed grins.

Margaux claims, "It isn't generally common knowledge who is in jail."

Kinaed nods at Zumini.

Danae states, "I'd wanted to suggest, quite a few times, that the Physicians be granted access to Ahalin, both to open up the pool of players who can RP with prisoners, and to give us another facet of RP to play."

Takta says, "I think we probably just want to keep focusing on using jail as little as possible."

Kinaed nods at Margaux.

Bryce invents titanium frosting.

Misune motions to Margaux "That too.

Takta states, "Punish people outside of jail whenever possible, make jail stays short."

Bryce would get behind that.

Kinaed says, "We really ought to look at special code for jails."

Azarial says, "Guess i need to work on chop-chop square, then."

Margaux says, "Yay for more corporal punishment."

Gaven states, "I don't like the idea of it being automated. It makes it too easy for someone to slip something to the person or get their bindings off."

Kinaed claims to Azarial, "There is that list on the staff board."

Misune ponders... "You know, someone a long time ago suggested something like a jailyard... where people not in jail could interact with those in jail...

Takta claims, "Yeah, if we just whip people on the spot rather than throwing them into jail, bam. Problem solved."

Kinaed says to Gaven, "I was thinking more along the lines of publicly accessible."

Kinaed nods at Takta.

Kinaed nods at Misune.

Ofelia says, "I have seen some coded 'visitation areas' in other games. Where you could interact but be mechanically separated, still."

Kinaed nods at Ofelia.

Emma votes one limb per offense.

Gaven rofls.

Azarial says to Emma, "Can be."

Zumini claims to Emma, "I would get behid that. Cripples are easier to manage. "

Kinaed states, "Given so much of our theme is about people executing one another or framing one another for such things, it seems realistic that we probably ought to get serious about some jail code."

Tomas says, "I would still love stocks to be a thing, it would have potential"

Bryce rolls a five-armed, seven-legged victim of a mage mutation spell.

Kinaed nods at Tomas.

Kinaed states to Tomas, "On the agenda."

Gaven says, "Stocks should definitely be a thing."

Azarial claims, "Unless the first offense means chopping the head off."

Ofelia says, "Definitely. With a rotten vegetable stand nearby."

Sabari says, "Stocks sound awesome! Yes to that."

Misune trails off, "Weren't stocks a real thing at one time... I definitly remember people being put in crossroads in stocks"

Danae claims, "Stocks have been a thing. Casimir was in them most recently."

Takta states, "There are stocks, but they aren't coded."

Gaven claims, "I wanna throw tomatoes at offenders out in the square."

Kinaed states to Azarial, "My bloodthirsty friend, we are too nice to chop heads off... no, wait, we're not. Not at all."

Otois sets up a almost-fresh veggies stand as side business

Temi says, "ICly stocks are a thing and we squshed up some current code to make it work, but people found it awkward."

Takta says, "The idea is adding some code to support the RP."

Bryce queries, "Wouldn't stocks just work like regular cuffs that are tied to the area?"

Kinaed claims to Misune, "Yeah, they can be built right now."

Azarial states, "Two-chop nick is a crowd favorite."

Margaux states, "Zeita once sold some stocks to people for... other purposes."

Gaven trails off, "...."

Bryce states, "Work camps should be a thing too *sage nod*"

Sabari pales at az

Gaven questions, "Oh my?"

Emma states, "Oh my."

Ofelia states, "Whelp."

Ofelia says, "That's out there now."

Kinaed trails off, "Okay, I've got some notes about improving the jail experience and some notes about stocks being desirable. It's half way through the hour, so if we can move on to Player Topics..."

Zumini states, "Zetia was definatly don't ask - don't tell."

Erazmus shakes his head and chuckles.

Saja says, "Hahahahaha. freakin zeita man"

Kinaed questions to Jules, "You wanted to raise something for discussion?"

Azarial states, "Beheading is in, and yes there is a chance of it taking a chop or two more than expected"

Domenic claims, "I have no problem with cutting off heads"

Tomas states, "I really want to draw and quarter someone"

Sabari trails off, "Boy am I glad GoT made me a heartless, unattached person before I found this game... XD"

Jules exclaims, "Yes!"

Kinaed states to Sabari, "Our bark is worse than our bite... 70% of the time."

Jules says, "I'm gonna copy and paste, 'cause I got someone downstairs here to pick up some exercise equipment and I need to run AFK. But here goes:"

Otois states, "And the someone gets lit on fire"

Kinaed states, "... maybe 60%."

Jules claims, "To start, I just want to put out a friendly PSA for all the new(ish) people who are here or might read this on the forums: in tense scenes, please give the 'bad guy' a chance to pose. I know that in other games, people can get PK'd without so much as a warning, but here, we have policy in place to prevent willy-nilly bad things from happening. I'm here to engage in RP and give you a thrill, not to gank you. :)"

Jules states, "As for my concern: if I hide in front of people, I am auto-marked for everyone in the room, even if I'm successful. I want to argue for the removal of this automatic marking, which seems unfairly weighted against coverts and which undermines the (probably underutilized) marking command already in place."

Sabari laughs at Kinaed.

Jules states, "If I hide without being seen, I think it should mean that I've slipped into a good spot while people weren't looking. That's the benefit of the skill, for a covert: being able to disappear without being noticed. If someone wants eyes on me at all times because I'm suspicious, they can mark me at any point before I hide and then catch me in the act of hiding AND/OR sneaking. Why would they automatically mark me when I hide if they didn't see me hiding in the first place? That makes no sense to me."

Jules claims, "It also sets me up for automatic failure if I attempt to sneak away, regardless of how much I've invested in the skill and regardless of everyone else's stats, and it takes away the prerogative on the part of the watchers to be actively vigilant. They get a guaranteed mark on a skilled sneak without having to do anything but be present, which means less of a challenge/opportunity for Knights and Reeves to learn and exercise vigilance via the mark command. So I'm arguing that the automatic marking be removed from the current hide/sneak system."

Jules has gone AFK.

Azarial says, "I was thinking about that earlier, and musing on having it mark if someone 'look's while you are sneaking but not hiddden"

Kinaed wonders to Jules, "If you hide in front of someone IRL, they know where you went. Why not just hide when they can't see you?"

Azarial states, "It does need a review; it is a leftover form quite a few years ago."

Takta claims, "The thing is, if you want to sneak ito a room where people are."

Takta claims, "And then hide."

Takta claims, "You can't do that, right now, even if you successfully sneak in."

Gaven states, "I always wondered how that would work"

Kinaed says, "Ahh, I see."

Kinaed nods at Takta.

Azarial says, "It was a hack on a hack on a cludge, becuase the paradigm for sneak and hide was poorly defined"

Takta trails off to Azarial, "I like that, if they look while you're sneaking but before you hide..."

Kinaed trails off, "I think that because sneak hides messages, people have used it before when they were directly in conversation with someone, then appeared to disappear like a mage, then complained to the staff when they got arrested for magery..."

Temi says, "And in a crowded room, people might not always be looking at you. Though I'd say hiding in front of people should definitely be harder."

Takta nods at Temi.

Kinaed says, "This is an absolutely true story."

Sabari claims, "I know very little about hide/sneak, but would hiding also encompass simply blending into the crowd? I imagine someone could actively 'hide' in a room by blending in, if it's sufficiently crowded--oh, Temi beat me to it XD"

Bryce says, "I don't agree with hide being able to be used right in front of someone, I do think that it should be shortened. If you run away from someone, you have a very long 'pose' action to go through before you actually wind up hidden."

Kinaed claims, "Okay, back to the drawing board with sneak again. Sorry for the problems, Jules."

Takta says, "I'd say hiding in front of people should be harder but doable, especially if you snuck in."

Jules exclaims, "Yes, thank you, Temi. We already have mark in place to watch people!"

Kinaed nods at Sabari.

Jules declares, "I have run now, so I leave this in your hands!"

Takta claims, "I think sneak/hide works fine right now -except- the inability to hide silently after successfully sneaking in."

Kinaed nods at Takta.

Azarial claims, "It;s the other stuff around it that needs adjusting"

Kinaed muses to Jules, "Thanks for raising it. Want a trans back?"

Jules claims, "Nope, I'll be back in a bit to catch up on what I miss. :)"

Kinaed nods at Jules.

Kinaed states, "Okay, that's Jules' stuff. Misune, you're up."

Misune blinks and scrambles to type out pose "Give me a minute."

Kinaed has transferred Danae. [OOC]

Kinaed nods at Misune.

Domenic claims, "OK I'm all caught up with everything people said"

Kinaed claims to Domenic, "Sorry, it is a very crowded room."

Erazmus passivley flickers, watching quietly.

Domenic states, "It's alright, this is meant for chat about problems after all"

Kinaed ponders if Otois has carrots at this stand.

Zumini says to Domenic, "And none of us have any opinions at all. </sarcasm>"

Kinaed nods at Domenic.

Kinaed snickers, "Nope, no opinions from this pbase."

Bryce is ambivalent to people having opinions.

Otois has lost link.

Otois has reconnected.

Kinaed states to Bryce, "I like them. Makes my life easier because I don't have to think of everything myself."

Temi states to Kinaed, "Or harder because when you do have an opinion, folks necessarily have opposite ones."

Temi grins at Kinaed.

Kinaed says, "Well, sometimes harder when people disagree with me."

Kinaed nods at Temi.

Kinaed says to Temi, "Stop typing so fast. Everyone is doing that these days. :P"

Bryce stares at Kinaed, " I was making a joke. I was saying I had no opinion on people having opinions." P

Zumini states, "We haven't had a good OOC opinion brawl in a while though. At least not one I was here for."

Domenic says to Zumini, "Yes no opinions for me unfortunately. I haven't been RPing with people because I'm still trying to figure out my character's personality and backstory"

Temi gives a birthday cupcake topped with an aproned boy-shaped candle to Galen.

Galen pontificates, "Sorry I'm late!"

Azarial asks, "...isnt;t that what the horn is for?"

Bryce suggests heeled shoes.

Kinaed smiles at Galen.

Galen exclaims, "...awwww!!"

Takta grins at Galen.

Kinaed claims to Azarial, "It's much slimmer and useless for gathering things over my head than I thought when I made this character."

Erazmus smiles at Galen.

Bryce declares, "Now we can eat the real Galen!"

Galen holds up a birthday cupcake topped with an aproned boy-shaped candle. "It's me! It's meeeee!!!"

Misune scraps his pose "Alright nevermind... What I wanted to bring up I can't get into a concise to the point pose and instead it is a jumbled mess that doesn't get my point across so nevermind."

Otois states, "Throw him into the pot"

Kinaed questions, "Want to send it to me in a tell, and maybe I can try?"

Bryce makes room in the pot.

Misune claims, "I'll just save it for next week's meeting, that way I have time to think it through, since I only thought of it because of something said during the meeting"

Kinaed states, "Okay, no worries. :)"

Kinaed says, "Okay, we're ... technically done with the meeting only 37 minutes into our hour. This is a first, especially given the size of the room."

Takta declares, "I could ask about the sky spec!"

Galen queries, "Aww, I missed the whole meeting?"

Takta states, "If people wanted."

Kinaed claims, "I guess some public service announcements - please consider writing a review for us."

Bryce thought there would be 'Boards' talk.

Kinaed states to Bryce, "Doh, you raised it. :P"

Misune thought there would be as well

Otois wants his boards back in his score! P

Galen states, "Thank you so much for theming the present after me, it's such an honor~"

Takta states to Galen, "You ran a big and successful event, so thank you. :D"

Kinaed trails off to Bryce, "So I changed score last night because I never use the boards section, and threw it up in the changes list, and Takta said, "Noooo, I use Boards." and I was like, "Seriously? I thought everyone just types 'board'" and she's like, "No, you're silly." And I'm like "Okay, let me poll that one"..."

Emma says, "Hmmm. New sheet is much tidier. Do kinda miss the boards being on there."

Takta grins at Kinaed.

Kinaed claims, "And so I put up a poll and Azarial logs in, and it's in."

Takta claims, "I can't function without my score-boards."

Bryce claims, "Okay, i was thinking there should be at least some kind of notification that you have a board message. But then I thought why not reverse what was done, leave boards on score and get rid of the boards command. Still have board 1-whatever, just no boards"

Kinaed says, "How many of you really can't function (besides Takta, whom I have faith has a flexible soul)"

Misune trails off, "I can't honestly think of the last time I even typed boards... "

Sabari queries, "How does it differ in access? I've just been using board, since I don't know what it does in score other than show you what's unread?"

Otois states, "I seriously can't"

Bryce raises his hand.

Temi claims, "I don't think the board command has any reason to be removed."

Kinaed nods at Temi.

Galen trails off, "I'm neutral on it either way... I use 'boards' a lot mostly to remember which board is which number"

Ofelia says OOCly, "I wouldn't say 'can't function', but I definitely think it makes sense all in one place. I use 'boards' only when I have to work with them specifically."

Otois says, "I use board to know which board is the bugs one, and then i post into the wrong one anyway"

Temi finishes abruptly, "I like it in score because it reminds me - I look there for other tings"

Domenic says, "I only knew about status until you brought it up"

Bryce voted 'both' on the poll.

Margaux states, "I suggested on the forum that you get an alert when there are new notes, ala Mail: YES"

Kinaed states, "I removed Boards from score because Boards isn't really about IC status, which the score command is for, and because it made score longer, and I was adding IC status information regarding new wounds."

Takta claims, "I essentially never knew boards existed, to be honest."

Erazmus trails off, "As I new player, I still am having a bit of trouble wrapping my head around the idea of boards...."

Emma didn't know there was a "boards" command until the poll.

Domenic states, "And score"

Takta says, "The command, I mean."

Emma highfives Takta

Takta nods at Emma.

Takta states to Erazmus, "Like in-game forums, essentially."

Takta says to Erazmus, "Except... well, for single posts."

Gaven asks, "Boards command?"

Kinaed says to Erazmus, "It's how we communicate OOC stuff in game, except the IC_Events board, that's IC public knowledge."

Takta says, "So not at all like forums. I'm still kind of sick, bear with me. *cough*"

Galen pontificates, "Oh, also, everyone be super nice and welcoming to Erazmus!"

Gaven queries, "Are we talking about this game's bboard?"

Kinaed states to Gaven, "Type 'board'"

Galen states, "I think he joined just last night."

Kinaed nods at Gaven.

Gaven says, "Oh."

Kinaed nods at Galen.

Gaven says, "I <3 the board system here"

Saja claims, "I honestly never even noticed there was a board thing in score"

Gaven trails off, "But whenever I log in it tells me I have unread messages...."

Gaven wonders, "Isn't that an alert?"

Takta says, "So it sounds like there's a lot of variability but people do use the board list in score to at least know there are posts to read."

Kinaed says to Saja, "See, you're like me. Not like Takta. I'm red, she's blue."

Erazmus blushes slightly. "You'd be correct. I'm really happy with the theme and community so far, my only worries right now are syntax and such."

Bryce states to Kinaed, "But isn't score both ic and ooc in nature. I mean there's no real reason a character would know he has mail without being notified, or rec status or xp or any of that stuff."

Kinaed states, "We're practically diametric opposites on the 'how we play' scale."

Takta says to Erazmus, "You've already got emote! That's the big one. ;)"

Saja claims, "I don't want to be red. we're the ones that diiiieee :("

Kinaed smiles at Erazmus.

Temi claims to Saja, "Only if you wear a shit."

Kinaed claims to Saja, "I murder more than I die."

Temi trails off, "Shirt..."

Misune cringes when he looks at score now "So... bluh."

Kinaed says, "I've only been PKed 3 times."

Otois states, "Not the brown pants joke"

Sabari snickers.

Kinaed flexes.

Saja trails off to Kinaed, "Well...you know my record"

Kinaed claims to Misune, "I'm pretty sure score hasn't changed THAT much."

Galen pontificates, "Dying is permanent here, so it tends to be a much bigger deal!"

Takta says, "Score definitely throws me off now, the Influence line."

Takta says, "And the extra space before action."

Erazmus chuckles. "Well, I come from another MOO that's simmilarly focused. Its more like learning French when you already know spanish."

Jules has returned from AFK.

Kinaed claims to Takta, "I raised the extra space earlier."

Emma exclaims, "Extra space after weight!"

Takta claims, "If we killed some extra spaces we could totally get boards back in there."

Misune nods with Takta "And relocation of stats... it just creates this odd..

Takta hopefully smiles at Kinaed.

Kinaed says, "I'll bet in a week, you'll have gotten comfortable typing "Board" and used to the new score."

Misune states, "I can't even think of the proper words. Just throws me off horribly"

Emma trails off, "It's much more concise, but... *whine*"

Azarial states, "And boards are a lot shorter for players; they dnt; see all of the ones staff do"

Bryce looks around, " What about making a score sheet that is customizable, like we can do with prompt?

Kinaed trails off, "Yeah... "

Takta says, "Huh."

Kinaed claims, "There are 24 boards."

Misune trails off, "And we see what... 9 at most if you are a mage"

Kinaed trails off, "I think it looks nice in score for PCs, but for staff..."

Takta says, "Even for staffers it didn't add -that- much to score."

Azarial claims, "Players see eight"

Galen declaims, "It's a little off-putting to find things in different places, but it's something I could get used to!"

Otois states, "9 would be a mage in reeves"

Kinaed states, "It was lop-sided."

Temi just checked score to verify that there were as many boards as Kinaed said.

Takta grins at Temi.

Azarial grins at Temi.

Takta states, "I really like score being the one-stop solution for your usual stuff."

Saja claims, "I can see that perspectvie"

Misune smirks at Temi "I did the same thing when azarial was stating there was 8 boards."

Otois agrees with Takta and dons his team-takta cape once again

Takta claims, "And only less usual/longer stuff that demands its own category getting its own commands."

Azarial states, "And then board for more details, notes for even more"

Margaux doesn't really care, tbh.

Azarial says, "Kinda like score versus the affects command, or the status command"

Takta states, "I love logging in, typing score, knowing what to check."

Domenic says, "Uuhh what is death XP? o.O"

Saja sides with Margaux.

Emma nods at Takta.

Galen states, "That's bonus XP you're rewarded if your character dies."

Takta states to Domenic, "The XP you get back if your PC dies."

Kinaed asks, "Okay, so if you want score/boards to change, make a racket on this forum post: viewtopic.php?style=1&f=8&t=1096"

Margaux questions to Domenic, "Would you like to find out firsthand?"

Galen states, "You can use it on your next PC."

Misune shrugs "I just like not having to type 21 different commands for vital info... Score and Account are the two I use most

Kinaed claims, "And use Board in the meantime."

Domenic states to Margaux, "0_0 I'm good"

Kinaed claims to Misune, "Ironically, that's how this started. I agree with you, so I wanted to wrap the information in 'status' into the Score command, and had to make room."

Misune asks, "But status is basically only for wounds isn't it?"

Kinaed pokes Margaux, "Be nice."

Margaux claims, "I think that OOC statuses like indecent, pregnant etc shouldn't show in an OOC room like this. It provides IC info."

Kinaed nods at Margaux.

Kinaed says, "I'll make a note to change that."

Margaux claims, "Thanks."

Galen declares, "I wouldn't want people to find out I'm pregnant...!"

Otois says, "And disabling look, if ti isn't"

Margaux states, "Wounds too."

Galen looks all around.

Misune is going to become even more paranoid with wounds now... groans

Takta trails off, "Just as a note..."

Gaven claims, "I'll admit I liked the old layout more for score."

Takta claims, "Wounds are definitely in a trial state. If it turns out they make stuff like hunting just unbearable we may well go with an alternative approach."

Sabari queries, "Well, maybe just let 'look' show the room desc and a list of names only for OOC? Just to see who else is in the meeting?"

Kinaed states, "Please people, this is an OOC room. Everyone should know what they learn here is OOC information and should definitely not even conceive of using it IC. :) Until we fix those things up."

Takta claims, "So feedback will be appreciated as people get wounds, etc."

Sabari nods at Kinaed.

Misune questions to Takta, "Unbearable in what way?"

Ofelia says, "Actually, about wounds, my alt has been wounded a long... long time now."

Takta asks of Ofelia, "Did you nab treatment?"

Kinaed states to Ofelia, "If it seems off, please bug it."

Zumini claims, "Time to find a doctor, some food, and a bed"

Ofelia states, "Yup, soon as it happened."

Otois says, "Sure kink, but the best way to prevent OOC abuse is to not share IC stuff over OOC ;)"

Kinaed claims, "That way we know to check."

Tomas states, "On the subject of score... notifications. It would be nice to have a notice somewhere/somehow about new gnotes that isn't the note that pops up after 10 minutes in guild chat. >.> I always forget to check them"

Ofelia claims, "I want to say the last wound is running on 2 RL weeks."

Kinaed states to Otois, "Yep, hence the 'until we plug the gaps'."

Tomas claims, "Just something like 'new gnotes'"

Emma states, "That would be so handy, Tomas."

Galen declares, "Oh yeah, new gnotes would be very useful!"

Margaux muses, "Maybe hide all equipment in look too?"

Takta states to Ofelia, "Probably needs to be eaten/slept off... or would have before. Send me a tell after this."

Galen pulls closed his cloak, hiding his garments.

Ofelia claims to Takta, "Will do."

Takta claims, "A new gnote notice would honestly be amazing."

Emma claims, "Right now gnotes have a strange, almost detached feeling."

Galen trails off, "I've been trying to make use of them, but I feel like they go ignored..."

Kinaed claims, "Just a note, I found out gnote match wasn't working, and now it should be."

Bryce points out that with a customizable score sheet, you could possibly put gnote notification on there. >.>

Otois muses, "I was wondering, but its just soo obvious that it is probably in game. is there a way to attach OOC notes to other players? So then when I look at someone, that note shows up?"

Kinaed states, "Ie, gnote match Temi"

Takta claims to Bryce, "Well, it's not coded at all, yet."

Emma states, "You could add a note on their remembered name, Otois."

Kinaed claims to Otois, "You can set up remember notes using the remember command."

Tomas nods at Takta.

Galen trails off to Otois, "I think there's functionality for 'remember' that helps with that..."

Kinaed claims, "Players can use cnotes to make character notes, which are necessary for certain policy circumstances."

Domenic asks, "Oh speaking of which...can I edit my description? I'm not quite content with it"

Otois says, "Point is not as cnote, just that, well, I have no short term memory (medial stuffs) and as result I keep a lot of OOG notes on all peopple i interact with just to remember what guild they are, what profesison etc. Otherwise I have no link between the char name and content. Being able to add couple lines to someones description that shows when I look at them would make that lot easier"

Kinaed states, "Okay, just a few more minutes to go. Please vote to help us raise our profile to get new players for you to play with. Also, if someone would consider writing a review for TI on the major MUD websites, we'd appreciate that."

Kinaed nods at Domenic.

Margaux says to Otois, "You can store stuff in remember"

Kinaed says, "Type 'desc' alone, and type @h to see the commands you can use whilst in the editor."

Takta claims to Otois, "Remember notes is your best bet. It won't show when you look but you can check those out."

Temi states, "Nothing when you look at them, but when you type 'remember Otois' it would show any notes"

Otois claims, "Okay, will give that a go"

Temi states, "Or you could include it in their remembered name"

Otois claims, "Right now I am shuffling humongous one note document ;)"

Ofelia states, "Ooo, useful."

Kinaed questions, "Anyone else have any plugs before we put people back and call it a day?"

Temi states, "Baker Otois of Tubor, etc."

Otois claims, "Yea, got it. Thanks :)"

Misune claims, "Ah yes actually something"

Kinaed nods at Misune.

Misune trails off, "Since I play the only Daravi on Grid, I would like to point out that I have no issue with people being 'Racist/rude' and numerous other things towards Zahida for the sake of RP... she's daravi afterall, I don't expect everyone/most to be fine with her being in Lithmore"

Takta states to Domenic, "You may want to read help intro, too. :)"

Misune trails off, "I even state it in her whois information..."

Kinaed nods at Misune.

Takta claims, "For people who struggle with racist RP, help racism has some tips."

Kinaed nods at Takta.

Galen pontificates, "I tried to make even Galen be a little bit startled by the idea of a Daravi priest, but I'm afraid that I might have been too subtle about it!"

Kinaed states, "Okay, we're about to wrap up for this week."

Kinaed claims, "Thank you, everyone who has attended to share your thoughts or witness the creative process."

Misune nods to Galen "And I appreciate it... Just was stating it for most... and your guard certainly did a good job

Misune winks

Kinaed says, "I hope to see everyone back again next week. :)"

Sabari claims, "Thank you all! ^^ Fun first meeting."

Bryce says, "My alt has never seen a Daravi, he thinks any Daravi he runs into is Farin."

Kinaed declares, "Farewell!"

Kinaed smiles at Sabari.

Domenic states, "Thank you, this has been interesting"

Galen declares, "Bye bye!"

Jules claims, "Thanks for listening to my complaints about hiding/sneaking. Appreciate it."

Kinaed states to Domenic, "A staff member will be in touch to help you out with commands soon."

Erazmus smiles and waves.

Domenic waves

Kinaed says to Jules, "We don't know unless people tell us - thanks for raising it."

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